Updated Bootable Tools CD
- Thread starter solaris
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Hi.
Those who are interested in how boot CDs can be made and how multiple sets of boot floppies can > be combined into a single bootable CD-R Should look at "Bart's CD-Rom Boot Disk" at :
h##p://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/
His boot CD can: (from his page)
"Features:
Supports eltorito.sys (can only be used on "no-emulation mode" bootable CD-Rom's).
Supports Atapi (also UDMA) CD-Rom drives.
Supports ASPI/SCSI CD-Rom drives.
The boot disk is based on MODBOOT, a very modular boot disk.
Easy customize to load the drivers you want, or to set the first drive letter.
You can easily add or remove (existing) Dos SCSI/ASPI drivers. Just copy/remove 1 driver plugin file.
Uses cdautrun.cab for searching "autorun.bat" on all CD-Rom drives (and runs it)."
More info on h##p://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/#makedisk
Information on and down load link to his program "BFD - Build Floppy Disk" can be found at h##p://www.nu2.nu/bfd/#changes
Possum.
Those who are interested in how boot CDs can be made and how multiple sets of boot floppies can > be combined into a single bootable CD-R Should look at "Bart's CD-Rom Boot Disk" at :
h##p://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/
His boot CD can: (from his page)
"Features:
Supports eltorito.sys (can only be used on "no-emulation mode" bootable CD-Rom's).
Supports Atapi (also UDMA) CD-Rom drives.
Supports ASPI/SCSI CD-Rom drives.
The boot disk is based on MODBOOT, a very modular boot disk.
Easy customize to load the drivers you want, or to set the first drive letter.
You can easily add or remove (existing) Dos SCSI/ASPI drivers. Just copy/remove 1 driver plugin file.
Uses cdautrun.cab for searching "autorun.bat" on all CD-Rom drives (and runs it)."
More info on h##p://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/#makedisk
Information on and down load link to his program "BFD - Build Floppy Disk" can be found at h##p://www.nu2.nu/bfd/#changes
Possum.
cadjak
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Another thanks to Solaris.
Also, since so many of us are interested in this BootCD idea, and Solaris is getting short on time, why not keep the thread alive and continue sharing what we find out as we continue building these tool CD's? It may not be as easy as having him/her as a resource, but who knows what we can come up with a group effort.
-cadjak
Also, since so many of us are interested in this BootCD idea, and Solaris is getting short on time, why not keep the thread alive and continue sharing what we find out as we continue building these tool CD's? It may not be as easy as having him/her as a resource, but who knows what we can come up with a group effort.
-cadjak
ipdave
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tyee wrote:
WinXP/Win2k bootable CD? I tried using the method at the end of Au-Yeung's article (as described by someone else) but it did'nt work. Any thoughts?
--> Au-Yeung's method is for using M$ iso image util to fit more than one version of the Same OS. To make 2k and xp on one CD, you would need to be sure both i386 folders fit on a single CD, and that the setup/install copies will both fit in folders such as "xpro" and "win2k" - using files generated by starting an install of each, stopping after a reboot, and copying the files for each off somewhere.
Then you would need a bootsect for each and use the menu method(s) to call each after a hex edit. I have not tried this myself since I need both 2kpro and 2kadsvr on a single disk, leaving no room for xp. Could fit on a bootable DVD, though...
WinXP/Win2k bootable CD? I tried using the method at the end of Au-Yeung's article (as described by someone else) but it did'nt work. Any thoughts?
--> Au-Yeung's method is for using M$ iso image util to fit more than one version of the Same OS. To make 2k and xp on one CD, you would need to be sure both i386 folders fit on a single CD, and that the setup/install copies will both fit in folders such as "xpro" and "win2k" - using files generated by starting an install of each, stopping after a reboot, and copying the files for each off somewhere.
Then you would need a bootsect for each and use the menu method(s) to call each after a hex edit. I have not tried this myself since I need both 2kpro and 2kadsvr on a single disk, leaving no room for xp. Could fit on a bootable DVD, though...
ipdave
Sorry, dave, yes I have already made a WinXP/Win2k bootable DVD. Made it a couple of weeks ago. Booted fine. Actually I made it many months ago but just kept it on my HD until I got a DVD Burner. It's about 900MB!
The reason I asked was to find out how to do it on a 650/700MB CD only. It's the part where you start the install, then stop it that I'm having problems with.
At that time, I found the folder of minimum files for install (boot floppies I guess, called ~winnt_bt~, about 8 MB), but I could not find the other folder that was mentioned (~winnt_ls~, supposedly about 200MB) which is the needed install files. It did not exist as far as I could tell anywhere on my C:. At that point I couldn't proceed further?
tyee
Sorry, dave, yes I have already made a WinXP/Win2k bootable DVD. Made it a couple of weeks ago. Booted fine. Actually I made it many months ago but just kept it on my HD until I got a DVD Burner. It's about 900MB!
The reason I asked was to find out how to do it on a 650/700MB CD only. It's the part where you start the install, then stop it that I'm having problems with.
At that time, I found the folder of minimum files for install (boot floppies I guess, called ~winnt_bt~, about 8 MB), but I could not find the other folder that was mentioned (~winnt_ls~, supposedly about 200MB) which is the needed install files. It did not exist as far as I could tell anywhere on my C:. At that point I couldn't proceed further?
tyee
Maybe I should start a new thread for this, but I just wanted to mention that I whipped up a multi-bootable WinXP Pro (corp) SP1 and Win2000 Pro SP3 cd. It also includes boot to Win98 prompt, Win98 prompt with NTFSDOS Pro, Partition Magic 8, and Norton Ghost 2003. Everything is tested and works just fine. I even threw in extras for both Win2k and XP (for example; IE6 SP1 and DirectX 8.1b for Win2k, and the Bluelist keygen and other tools for WinXP).
I mainly made this post to answer the question posed by tyee and ipdave that yes, it is possible to have both on one 700mb disk. The only thing is, I had to create this manually. I don't think there are any "auto multi-bootable" tools that will allow you to use both Win2k and WinXP.
Also, if there are enough people interested in this, and there's someone out there with the means to distribute it, I'd be happy to see that they get it.
If there's any questions, just ask...
WeRD
I mainly made this post to answer the question posed by tyee and ipdave that yes, it is possible to have both on one 700mb disk. The only thing is, I had to create this manually. I don't think there are any "auto multi-bootable" tools that will allow you to use both Win2k and WinXP.
Also, if there are enough people interested in this, and there's someone out there with the means to distribute it, I'd be happy to see that they get it.
If there's any questions, just ask...
WeRD
Hi WeRD
Yes, I very interested in how you did it. I would like to do it myself. Could you list the steps in a simplified form because I have done it already for a DVD, but I need to know how to make it fit on the 700MB CD like you! What's the trick to get rid of all the stuff that's not really needed so that WinXP and Win2k fit??
Did you start the install then grab just the needed files or did you do it some other way?
BTW to WeRD and anyone else, I see what is happening with these multiboot CDs using *.ima files (image of bootable floppy)but when you boot any of the images you can't actually run a windows program after the boot can you? Aren't you basically in DOS only?? or am I not understanding it right??
tyee
Yes, I very interested in how you did it. I would like to do it myself. Could you list the steps in a simplified form because I have done it already for a DVD, but I need to know how to make it fit on the 700MB CD like you! What's the trick to get rid of all the stuff that's not really needed so that WinXP and Win2k fit??
Did you start the install then grab just the needed files or did you do it some other way?
BTW to WeRD and anyone else, I see what is happening with these multiboot CDs using *.ima files (image of bootable floppy)but when you boot any of the images you can't actually run a windows program after the boot can you? Aren't you basically in DOS only?? or am I not understanding it right??
tyee
Making a multi-bootable Windows CD isn't all that easy to do manually, and takes a bit of work. I was able to create this one so quickly because I had already previous made Win2k and WinXP multiboot CDs, so I just ripped files from them and slapped the 2 together more or less.
Instead of me taking forever to type out all the steps, I'll give you a few links to show you how to do it (these should even include instructions on how to slipstream the latest Service Pack into it):
hxxp://www.tech-hints.com/xp.html
hxxp://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html
hxxp://www.bink.nu/bootcd
hxxp://www.nu2.nu
You can find all the information and utilities you need from these sites, but if you want more, just consult "the Google".
Have fun,
WeRD
EDIT:
Whoops, I forgot the most important thing...making it fit onto a 700mb CD.
All you have to do is delete files/folders that aren't needed by either WinXP or Win2k, here's a list of things I got rid of to make it fit:
WinXP:
- In the \i386 folder, delete everything in the "LANG" folder (but do not delete the folder itself) ... frees about 99 mb
- Delete the entire "VALUEADD" folder ... frees about 10 mb
Win2k:
- In the \i386 folder, delete everything in the "LANG" folder (but do not delete the folder itself) ... frees about 63 mb
- Delete the entire "VALUEADD" folder ... frees about 40 mb
- Delete the entire "DISCOVER" folder ... frees about 7 mb
There is also more you can delete to make room if you want to stick other stuff on the CD (for instance, the "SUPPORT" folder from each), however it's not necessary since you should now be able to fit it all on a 700mb disk (with a little extra space left over).
Instead of me taking forever to type out all the steps, I'll give you a few links to show you how to do it (these should even include instructions on how to slipstream the latest Service Pack into it):
hxxp://www.tech-hints.com/xp.html
hxxp://www.tech-hints.com/2kos.html
hxxp://www.bink.nu/bootcd
hxxp://www.nu2.nu
You can find all the information and utilities you need from these sites, but if you want more, just consult "the Google".
You're running in DOS mode from here. You can execute any DOS based programs, but not Windows.
Have fun,
WeRD
EDIT:
Whoops, I forgot the most important thing...making it fit onto a 700mb CD.
All you have to do is delete files/folders that aren't needed by either WinXP or Win2k, here's a list of things I got rid of to make it fit:
WinXP:
- In the \i386 folder, delete everything in the "LANG" folder (but do not delete the folder itself) ... frees about 99 mb
- Delete the entire "VALUEADD" folder ... frees about 10 mb
Win2k:
- In the \i386 folder, delete everything in the "LANG" folder (but do not delete the folder itself) ... frees about 63 mb
- Delete the entire "VALUEADD" folder ... frees about 40 mb
- Delete the entire "DISCOVER" folder ... frees about 7 mb
There is also more you can delete to make room if you want to stick other stuff on the CD (for instance, the "SUPPORT" folder from each), however it's not necessary since you should now be able to fit it all on a 700mb disk (with a little extra space left over).
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Thanks,WeRD.
I have been to all the sites you mentioned and even contributed to twinkie's procedure. I guess that was many months ago. That was when everybody was doing the 2 or 3in1 windows 2000 home/server/pro, etc. They're all great sites.
I'll try deleting all the things you mentioned and give it a try.
tyee
I have been to all the sites you mentioned and even contributed to twinkie's procedure. I guess that was many months ago. That was when everybody was doing the 2 or 3in1 windows 2000 home/server/pro, etc. They're all great sites.
I'll try deleting all the things you mentioned and give it a try.
tyee
