XP SP1 Question (pokopiko, please look inside)

[Shadey]

Re: well

I think I'll make a ghost image of drive c, and I'll try installing sp1.

Yeah - best to try it out and decide for yourself.

Everyone has variations in hardware and software they use, so your gonna get varied responses.

I have two comps with WinXP - but only have SP1 installed on one, the comp without SP1 is working fine - I still manage to get updates from windows update, and no real major probs. The comp with SP1 - likewise not had any of the problems people complained about when they tried SP1 (except 1, below) - could be lucky, but dont see any major benefit from having it installed, though it does address the vunerabilities outlined in the SP1 spec.

If you're worried about the vunerablities without SP1 - by all means try it - but its good that you decided to ghost backup first - just in case (cos dont rely on the system restore point thats created by SP1 when u install it - mines already screwed - already tried reverting back to pre SP1 - I simply cant, lucky i dont have any major problems with it yet).

 

[username1]

Hi shadey

Thank you for your response.

I never use system restore. I think that it's unreliable. And yes, I do worry about the security holes fixed in sp1. That's why I want to update in the first place. on the other hand, sometimes it's good to have the most updated software, in order to prevent problems that might appear in the future.

so long.

 

[shadoe_phantom]

TYT
I actually know how to use a computer. And how to set one up properly. Oh, and I'm using decent branded equipment.

WOW... pretty impressive. Maybe you can teach me how to do that too. Branded? what is branded?
lol

As they say, every PC is different and many use things a lot more differently (video editing and specific types of burning etc...) and so the regular run of the mill PC won't probably notice much.

PS
I always use top notch equipment (not just decent branded) and know how to setup PCs and OS sytems (from freeBSD to solaris systems) and everything else.
That isn't the point. Could just be for what you have setup there are no issues & I didn't really notice too many issues other than some printer and mouse settings being effected with SP1 on a rig I installed it on, but see no need for it on my own PCs.
Incidently I'm back to win2K because it just simply is more stable and nobody can argue against that!

As Shadey pointed out (& poko) there are other ways to backup your stuff just incase you encounter something. So just take the needed precautions username1 and then you won't have anything to regret. Better safe than sorry.

good luck

 

[TYT]

WOW... pretty impressive. Maybe you can teach me how to do that too. Branded? what is branded?
lol...

lol.... roofles... rofl... rawr!@!

oh my. i'm really not going to dignify that with a response. jesus... ahahahahah.....

...Incidently I'm back to win2K because it just simply is more stable and nobody can argue against that!... I always use top notch equipment (not just decent branded) and know how to setup PCs and OS sytems (from freeBSD to solaris systems) and everything else.

not against someone so obviously so leet who uses so many exclamation marks!

Annnnyway...

That isn't the point...

the 'point' is that the net is filled to the brim with people who don't know what the hell they're talking about. forums and computer shops generally allow such idiots to share their baseless, factless, unproved idiocy with many people who don't know any better.

Redressing the balance, bane of my life.

Again, nothing wrong with XP-SP1. If there is, and you know different, please provide some worthwhile links. Ta.

 

[Dysmyl]

Did you ever try to get customer support from HP?
Did you ever had a Compaq not crashing for more than ten hours?

LOL excellent profound questions, right up there with what is the meaning of life?

But seriously, I'm using SP1 on several computers in my network without any problem whatsoever. Machines ranging from high end to crap that should have been in the dumpster along time ago.

But to be honest I'm one of the idiots that like trying the latest and greatest just for the hell of it. If you have a serious setup going and you dont need anything the upgrade has to offer I wouldn't reccomend inviting trouble. Of course this is true with any type of upgrade.

 

[username1]

shit...

Shit, now I have another reason to install that SP1, my audigy 2 requires sp1 to play dvd audio discs

btw, guys what firewall program would you recommend?

I heard about Sygate, Kerio, Zone alarm, kaspersky anti-hacker...

any advises?

 

[Master]

Master my buddie, I don't disagree with what you say. I only wonder if perhaps you have noticed any improvements since installing SP1?

no..of course not

i am a g-pig..betatester..what you like

 

[shadoe_phantom]

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<-- earned those with my masters.
http://www.winxpnews.com/?id=43
http://www.winxpnews.com/?id=45
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327299
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q327991
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q327808
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q324722
http://www.offeryn.de/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=187
also reported problems with many Pioneer DVR drives

plenty more sites available too on problems with people installing it.
All we are saying is that you may or may not get problems after installing SP1 but there is no real gain in doing so (so why bother).
Anyhow, end of discussion and

@username1
there already is a discussion going in the securities section for firewalls and anti-virus programs.
Though my personal choices would be any of the 3 there because ZAP is now crap! (so doesn't even count)

 

[TYT]

... Oh, and I'm using decent branded equipment...

To which you reply spastically..

What sort of branded do you prefer? Electrolux? General Electric? Moulinex?
Did you ever open your case of your BRANDED computer to see what sort of chinese crapola two-bucks-per-kilo mainboard is planted in?
Did you ever try to get customer support from HP?
Did you ever had a Compaq not crashing for more than ten hours?
TyT, you seem to know too much, so take care, cause you know what must happen to those who know too much...
If I judge from your sayings then the only kind of FreeBSD you are familiar with is the Free Blue Screen of Death...

That whole post is nothing but a bunch of shit. "Brand" fucknuts...as in decent motherboard manufacturer, decent fucking video card. Branded DDR, none of that OEM shit. Etc.

Conclusion, you're retarded. Although I already gathered that from your other posts around here, definite illusions of grandeur.

...TyT, you seem to know too much, so take care, cause you know what must happen to those who know too much...

If that's a threat, you can stick it up your arse, fuck off and then die for all I care. Because I couldn't give a shit. Threatening people on the net, ahahah... you loser. And from what I've seen so far, your likely course of action to people who know too much is to wibble on at them about some usless shit in some spasticated format, which is easy and worthless enough to happily ignore.

 

[TYT]

...All we are saying is that you may or may not get problems after installing SP1 ...

- yup.

...but there is no real gain in doing so (so why bother)...

- nope. your opinion only. not a conclusion at all.

...Anyhow, end of discussion ...

- ok.



tiny pf's my firewall of choice.

 

[ChickenMan]

Conclusion, you're retarded. Although I already gathered that from your other posts around here, definite illusions of grandeur.

Okay I've had enough of this thread and had a fealing it would not take to long to get to a slagging match. If you TYT wish to say something about a fellow member of this forum, do it via email or something, not here, end of story.

This not like in baseball, its strike 2 and your out here. Please take this warning seriously.

Thread closed.

CM