Which CD-Reader???

cdorders

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I want to get a new reader now I'm on holidays that will do many work and effort with copy protections. Since I own a Plextor 40x SCSI reader installed into my other PC, I would love to have almost the same performance with an ATAPI reader as well... So the point is which one should I get?

TEAC CD-540EB
TOSHIBA DVD 16x48
PIONEER DVD-106S

Note that I can find these drives at the same price, so I will choose one of them. Also note that the new TEAC CD-552E has not arreived yet in Greece. Furthermore, I cannot know for sure if the DVD-106S reads subchannel data for sure (the DVD-500M does not), as there are rumours and tests that proove it does... On the other hand, I do not trust the TOSHIBAs so much and the TEAC is a bit overpriced as a reader. So which one should I choose as a good CD READER (don't care about DVD reading)?
 
NewGen

NewGen

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TEAC TEAC TEAC TEAC TEAC TEAC !!!

it reads with excellent results great with encrypted sub-codes and those doozie psx games with sub-code protection say good-bye...!!!

:D
 
cdorders

cdorders

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(if they work in that they work in anything)
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:D

What about the Pioneer DVD-106S? I own a DVD-U03S (SCSI) but it doesn't read subchannel :(. On the other hand it does well with Audio CDs (EAC), Scratched CDs and all DVDs... It is said that only the 106S can read subchannel from Pioneer models. :confused:
Plus, I asked for the TEAC at the official dealer in Greece and they say there is no availability cause they expect the CD-552E in a couple of months.......... Grrrrrrrrr I want it now not in two months!
 
NewGen

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hrmmm... although it reads great with audio... you'll eventually need something that can read subchannels (most writers now should anyway)...

protections in most popular CDs (Audio/Data/PSX) use'm now... better to be safe than sorrie i rekkon...

;)
 
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shadoe_phantom

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It will be a toss up between the teac & the Toshiba.
Toshibas will read everything (that is for sure), just slower sometimes than other drives, but have not tested the 16x48x model yet. Models prior to it were really amazing.
Pioneer is ok, but I doubt as good as Toshiba or Teac.
 
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Thank you shadow. The thing is that there are rumours saying that Toshiba drives do not last as TEACs and Pioneers do... Furthermore, TOSHIBA DVDs may be good readers but they are not so trusted by many people and this puzzles me a lot. I want a drive that can handle reading and hard use just as my 2,5 years old Plextor and my 4 (!!!) years old Pioneer DR-A04S CD-Rom. I don't know if the TOSHIBA will last for such a time, but I am sure that both the TEAC and Pioneed DVD-106S, CAN. The other thing is that I want to know surely that the DVD-106S reads subchannel data correctly. Rumours say it does and other rumours say it doesn't :(. Also note that it is the only Pioneer drive that is said (?) to read subchannel data. :confused: :confused: :confused: I am really puzzled...

The best solution is to get another TEAC or a Liteon burner, but I cannot afford a third writer now... Any suggestions please?
 
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shadoe_phantom

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Well like I said, I haven't tested that toshiba model, but my 12X is still running fine & my 6X. (the 6x can actually read better & have had it 4 years (if not longer) now.
Currently using Sony DDU1621 (flash patched) & not having problems with it. Able to do copy protected music CDs with it also (with audiograbber & eac).

PS
I hear phillips makes some good readers
 
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cdorders

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Back online again :). And it seems that I was very lucky these days... I got a Pioneer DVD-106S and the same day I exchanged it for a TEAC CD-W540E and a Hercules 3D Profet 4000XT SVGA Card (32MB/ Kyro/TVOut)!!! It seems santa is out on summer as well! Both me and the guy I did the exchange, are satisfied. Now I'm gonna test my "NEW" drive AND svga card. ;) :cool:
 
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RIDGEBACK

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toshiba drives

I had a toshiba 6702b cd rom drive that i bought direct from toshiba in the republic of Ireland, after about 3 months the drive tray would come out with such force tht it would kind of bounce at its limit nd go back in quite often with the cd half out of the tray(often scratching it) I put up with this for a couple of months(i would just grab the tray s it popped out) before contacting them to have it returned, (eventually after weeks of emails and the arse of the company not knowing what the elbow was doing) i was informed that they no longer did repairs in Ireland and I would have to send the drive to Germany by registered post, as the hassle and expense of this to me was more than what the drive was worth I binned it and bought a lite-on dvd drive instead.

In short toshiba drives and the company itself are not worth the hassle
 
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Shoebedobedoo

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TOSHIBA DVD 16x48, HANDS down. The Toshiba drives work great with CloneCD and can fly like lighning reading copy protected cd's. I own a Toshiba SD-M1502 and I love it!
Is that model the 1601, or 1602? I read at another forum one of those drives has NO problems reading ATIP (Safedisck 2.4-2.51.021).
Ridgeback,
I once owned a Toshiba XM6702b and had NO problems with that cd-rom whatsoever. A friend of mine had the Toshiba XM-6602b and he had NO problems with his Toshiba cd-rom as well. Toshiba drives do read sub-q.

Toshiba rules!!!!

Shoebedobedoo
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RIDGEBACK

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Do you think coz i'm a junior member I'm a newbie I hve been a member before under this name and others(I have also been using clone cd for more than a couple of years, Why do you think I bought the drive). I didn't mention anything about sub-channel data I was talking about the reliability of the drive and especially the hassle of getting the drive repaired if you live in the uk. Forgive me for jumping down your throat but I hate being patronised.
 
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Shoebedobedoo

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Ridgeback,
It's ok m8:D I too understand the hassle of getting pc equipment repaired. Besides, ther's always 1 bad apple in the bunch, and you were unfortunate, lol.

Shoebedobedoo:D
 
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Shoebedobedoo

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cdorders,
Did my homework concerning Toshiba DVD drives that can play backups that have safedisc 2.4-2.51.021 (ATIP). The only 2 that can play backups are: 1) Toshiba SD-M1402, 2) Toshiba Combo SD-R1202. You might wan't to do some research on the Pioneer and Teac concerning safedisc 2.4-2.51.021. I would hate to see you buy a drive that can't play a successfull working backup. The Toshiba SD-M1402 also handles Key2Audio cd protection with a breeeze (butta cutta). Hope this info helps....
Toshiba SD-R1202 Hardware test:
hxxp://xwx.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Articles/Specific.asp?ArticleHeadline=Toshiba+SD%2DR1202+CD%2DRW+%2F+DVD+combo&Series=0

Shoebedobedoo
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RIDGEBACK

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It has nothing to do with disagreement or good manners. I will not be patronised.

To shoebedobedoo, a bad drive I can handle( S**t happens) they can be repaired, it was the hassle and expense of sending a £45 drive halfway across Europe by registered post which would have cost a fortune and my time to post it which I consider came to almost what the cost of a new drive would be. So I bought a new one nd I've learned not to buy equipment from manufcturers tht don't have a repir bse here in the uk, talk bout faulty components the A key on this chuffing keybord is ripping my knitting.
 
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rePsyke

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Specifications

I too am in the process of buying a new CD-ROM. With convenience in mind I am searching for a model that will recognise and read CD-RW media along with VCD, CDR and the other usual formats. It must also provide sufficient read fidelty to produce perfect CCD images or better yet a straightforward CD-to-CDR backup and accurate digital audio extraction for music as well. Speed is not very important, especially as I think it would be impossible to find a modem machine that ran at less than x32.

What I emphatically do NOT want is ANY reader that will perform an ATIP check and report the pressence of non pressed CD's to SafeDisk or any of the other pain in the colon protection routines. I therefore am not even considering a DVD-ROM however useful it would otherwise be. I am VERY, VERY tired of using 'Hide CDR' in CloneCD.

I have a feeling this may be a tough spec to fill, but does anyone suggestions that might fit the bill?
 
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rePsyke

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Toshiba opinion

The Toshiba models seem attractive. However I would personally not buy one myself. As a company I have found what is now called their customer support even worse than Bioware/Infogames (different topic - NWN) if that is possible. I spent entirely too long in the early eighties assembling their truly dreadful plywood tower hi-fi systems for customers; knowing implicity they would be returned to the workshop within a month and that getting the replacement parts or equipment from Toshiba would be long and arduous.

I accept others may have positive experiences with the company but I have not.
 
cdorders

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The Toshiba models seem attractive. However I would personally not buy one myself
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That's my opinion as well. BTW I bought the TEAC CD-540E which is perfect, but unfortunately my 40x Plex is dying so, another reader would be fine and at this time DVD ripping will be needed. So, what about the 16x48 ASUS or 16x40 Pioneer DVD-117 (as the 500M has 256 and NOT 512kb cache)???
I'm between the Pioneers 106s, 117 and the ASUS 16x... Which one?
 
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