The old Bin/Cue thingy

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Jola

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Hi
Before submitting this thread I searched all the over the place for an answer but to no avail. So I thought I'd ask the experts.
I'm trying to copy a CD which has a cue, bin and sfv file on it. After a bit of searching I realised I needed CDrwin or Nero so I d/l'd a demo of both and also the Brad Smith Sfv Creator. On this particular CD the bin file is 456mb.
I combined the sfv and was told a file was missing but proceeded to burn the bin, now did I do this right> Load Cuesheet> Load Tracks> Record? With the nero I just loaded the "burn image" option.
The resultant cd shows there has been a burn, about half of it, which seems reasonable but there are no files showing when opened in Windows Explorer. I have repeated this with 4 other totally different CD's (which didn't have sfv files) and all I get is coasters and one rendered a CDR unrecordable. FYI my CDR is a Samsung SW-408 - not fantastic but been OK up to now.
Sorry this is lengthy but if anyone could help it would be very much appreciated.
Thx
 
RASTABT

RASTABT

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Hi Jola welcome. :)
Just open you burning program, choose load image, and select the cue file, it will burn them correctly if your programs supports buring of cue files etc..
One reason you mayB having problems burning this file is
1. you said a file or files are missing.
2. your burning does not support burning this file correctly..(might B lets say a protected game file you have) This is where a program like Alcohol 120 % come's into play...
Hope this will put some light onto your problems...
Note No help on illegal issues...warez etc.
PS:Have a read of this and carry out the steps lay out for testing aspi
 
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Jola

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Hi Rastabt

Thx for the reply.
I have just done exactly what you said with a Nero demo and once again explorer is telling me the disk is empty when in fact I can physically see the burn.
The file was in fact a bundle of audio samples for use in a virtual instrument. I have d/l'd about 5/6 of these (legally!) and I get the same result every time. BTW this file was just bin and cue - not sfv.
Most other people must have success but I just cant understand what is going wrong.
One other thing, one of the burns created a *.cda file of about 44kbs - I was expecting 450 mb! The file type wasn't recognised by Win XP anyway.
Thx
 
The-poacher

The-poacher

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The CDA file was probably as big as u say the 44kbs is a windows tingy.
However if the sfv says a file is missing _ I presume U downloaded as rar files.If one of the rar files is missing the bin file will be incomplete/US.
 
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LTR12101B

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If I recall, .CDA is a File manager placeholder for an Audio CD track.

BurnatOnce (read the forums here!) might be better than Nero.

The BIN is the data part of a CD image, but is unstructured - Though some simple BIN's containing only a single track do not really need any additional structure.

The CUE describes the format - eg 2048 byte/sector cooked data, audio data, Mode 1, Mode 2 etc.
It also applies the separation of audio tracks, and the application of CD-Text if required.

SFV = Simple File verification - but a BIN/CUE image needs no other files, other than perhaps some human-readable text to describe it.


On other thought, if pulling them down in a newsreader, they may be multiparts that need additional reassembly.

If they are NOT rared or zipped, there is an additional problem - a BIN or ISO image has little or no self-verification - if RARs or ZIPs are damaged, you know it when you unpack them.

One other thought - examining/bursting with ISOBUSTER might be a useful test, or mounting with a virtual CD tool such as daemon tools
 
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Jola

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Audio and data burns ok but I do this with either drag & drop or the XP burner.
I didn't know about the disable thing - I've currently got enabled - Norton 2003, Zone Alarm, Demos of Cdrwin, Nero, Fireburner and XP's own.
Could this be the problem?
Thx
 
J

Jola

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As an afterthought, I would imagine that the bin is a collection of many short audio tracks eg the samples may be a woodwind instrument and when I;ve used these in *.wav format there is a seperate track for each note and then more for different velocities and effects like breat noise.
So maybe I need the cue?
 
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LTR12101B

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Still thinking... Load Cuesheet sounds like an audio thing.

Burn Image sounds more likely, if the CD is actually data rather than audio - in fact, it ought to burn a CUE/BIN audio just as well
 
J

Jola

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It seems I'm getting closer - I used ISO Buster to extract the data and I can now see a file on my hard drive with 235mb in it - great! But it's a *.tao file - what do I with that? I was hoping for a wave file.
Thx again to all
 
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scarecrow

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Forget converting- you may lose data in many cases.
If you are kind enough attach here your .cue file, please...
The .sfv file is just for verifying the image integration- if you have not passed that (before decompressing) then something has gone wrong with your download.
 
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Jola

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Oh - sorry should have said -
This file and the bin and the tao and the iso.....
all relate to one track. In my very limited experience but when using samples generally in *.wav format, I would genrally be presented with many files containing different notes etc of the sampled instrument. I probably said that before!
Thx all the same
 
Duracell

Duracell

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Jola said:
Is the idea to convert the bin & cue image to an ISO file by burning?
Click to expand...
you cannot convert an AudioCD image or a multisession CD into a ISO image; ISO is restricted to pure data in one session;

just attach the CUE sheet here, so we can look into and tell you the destination result;


Greetings from
Duracell
 
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