Source Files????

[Crusher]

Do you have to RIP the DVD with DVDStripper? Can the source files already exist on the Hard Drive (IE. Previously Ripped)

 

[Bear263]

You can not use files on your hard drive. You must go through dvdstripper to rip.

 

[Crusher]

That kind of sucks..... This feature should be added.

 

[MackemX]

That kind of sucks..... This feature should be added.

Hi

I know some people may have already ripped DVD's on their drive but most will also have access to the DVD also and won't mind ripping it again

if you have files on the Hard Drive, you can create an image and mount it and use DVDStripper on the image. If you cannot mount an image then the only way is to rip the DVD again

cheers

 

[Crusher]

Sounds like a fair solution. I will give it a try.

 

[0xdeadbeef]

IMHO having the possibility to process files on the HD is a MUST HAVE!
Not only because I prefer to rip manually, but because in case of crashes, it has to be possible to start processing without ripping again.

Just did my first test with DVDStripper and guess what: it crashed with an obscure "invalid path" (kinda) message just as I started the processing. PLEASE don't make me rip the DVD again and again everytime DVDStripper crashes or I have to stop the processing for other reasons!

BTW: would it be possible to have an icon that doesn't look like a porn dialer (yes, I know, the name's a pun, but the icon is ... err ... kinda cheap).

 

[dloftis]

You can always just create a shortcut to the .exe, and change the icon on the shortcut to be whatever you want it to be...

 

[MackemX]

IMHO having the possibility to process files on the HD is a MUST HAVE!
Not only because I prefer to rip manually, but because in case of crashes, it has to be possible to start processing without ripping again.

it's your first attempt and it's telling you that it has an invalid path. Have you tried again inputting new paths you know are valid?

can you describe the error a little more as I'm still at a complete loss as to what happened. It shouldn't crash but if you have managed to input invalid filepaths then it will crash. I have a feeling it may be to do with your backup path but I'm not sure yet

can you take a snapshot of the 1st screen and then attach it as an image here? (see below). If you cant then email me the picture and I will check it

 

[0xdeadbeef]

it's your first attempt and it's telling you that it has an invalid path. Have you tried again inputting new paths you know are valid?

can you describe the error a little more as I'm still at a complete loss as to what happened. It shouldn't crash but if you have managed to input invalid filepaths then it will crash. I have a feeling it may be to do with your backup path but I'm not sure yet

can you take a snapshot of the 1st screen and then attach it as an image here? (see below). If you cant then email me the picture and I will check it

Target path was perfectly valid (D:\DVD) and contained no files, but only 4 directories. Amongst them an empty VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS. Creating an additional folder level (D:\DVD\DVDStripper) solved the problem, so I'm convinced that there's a bug in the folder creation routine or something similar. Maybe this only happens if there are no files in the target directory, but only (empty) folders.

 

[MackemX]

Target path was perfectly valid (D:\DVD) and contained no files, but only 4 directories. Amongst them an empty VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS. Creating an additional folder level (D:\DVD\DVDStripper) solved the problem, so I'm convinced that there's a bug in the folder creation routine or something similar. Maybe this only happens if there are no files in the target directory, but only (empty) folders.

I have just again tried it with the two empty folders in my backup folder and it works perfect

an invalid path could happen if these folder are modified after setting the paths but before processing
I'm still confused as to what happened or how you managed to do it

 

[0xdeadbeef]

I have just again tried it with the two empty folders in my backup folder and it works perfect

an invalid path could happen if these folder are modified after setting the paths but before processing
I'm still confused as to what happened or how you managed to do it

Hm, I dunno. The path was however correct. Maybe it's not easily reproducable. However it would be much easier to trace such things down and less annoying for the user if the ripping wasn't mandatory.

 

[MackemX]

Hm, I dunno. The path was however correct. Maybe it's not easily reproducable. However it would be much easier to trace such things down and less annoying for the user if the ripping wasn't mandatory.

Ripping is necessary as it is with most software, how else are you going to modify the VOB's?

DS does not work like DVDShrink but that doesn't stop you from ripping as many DVD's as you want using DVDStripper then loading them in at a more convenient time to strip them

I hope in time you fully understand how DVDStripper works

 

[0xdeadbeef]

I do and that's exactly why I'm not very happy.

 

[MackemX]

I do and that's exactly why I'm not very happy.

can I ask what you not happy about?

you said it works perfectly yet you are still unhappy which is what I cannot understand

 

[Dysmyl]

You can not use files on your hard drive. You must go through dvdstripper to rip.

I have had success mounting my pre existing files on a virtual drive and using dvdstripper from there. I would also like to be able to use dvdstripper straight from the hard drive but i realize dvdstripper is a work in progress and takes time to implement all features.

BTW: would it be possible to have an icon that doesn't look like a porn dialer (yes, I know, the name's a pun, but the icon is ... err ... kinda cheap).

Screw that, I want a naked chic patch for it!

 

[MackemX]

I realize dvdstripper is a work in progress and takes time to implement all features.

it does indeed , but I would like to think we have done well so far seeing as it's still less than a month since release and it's still around 7 weeks since the project first started

although it may not be the fastest developer or contain wanted features, I can think of a few software's that we put to shame. Judging by the emails, PM's and IM's we receive, I'm pretty sure the vast majority are satisfied with what they have received regarding the product, updates and aftersales

'Rome wasn't built in a day'

 

[0xdeadbeef]

can I ask what you not happy about?

you said it works perfectly yet you are still unhappy which is what I cannot understand

I just ripped/processed X-Men using DS. Agreed, the result is perfect. However, I had some problems again.

1) I had to analyze the DVD using DVDShrink because using the DS preview (together with WinDVD) it was impossible to identify one of the copyright screens.

2) During processing I decided to close WinDVD. Result was a "permission denied" (or similar) message box with DS exiting. Started DS again using the correct paths. When trying to process again, DS gave me a "item missing" (or something) error.
Tried "Emergency IFO Process restart" but IFOEdit came up with "exit without saving" all of the time.
Had to stop and rip again

3) This time I didn't dare to mess with WinDVD and ripping/processing worked. However IfoEdit kept popping into the foreground all the time, so I couldn't really do anything else while processing.


As I said in the original post, I like the result, but I'm not really happy with the workflow. Especially it should be possible to minimize IFOEdit or at least hinder it from popping into the foreground all the time.

 

[MackemX]

again you said the result is perfect

All of your 3 issues can be answered if you just read the guides or the forums but it looks like you are still missing vital information regarding information and basically are learning by your mistakes

1. Numerous people have had this issue and some have used different players and all is fine. I myself have played items I could not see yet others could but I blame my setup not the dvd player. This is one thread HERE
2. Sadly DS does not close the player but I have always recommended you close the player BEFORE processing. If a VOB is being used, how can it be modified?, therefore the user must manually close the player. I have just checked the htm guide and it's actually missing but it was in the PDF guide Make sure you CLOSE the DVD PLAYER before clicking Process. It will be corrected as soon as possible but you are the 1st to mention this (good spot)
3. If you read the www.DVDStripper.com page it states:
You must be willing to allow control of the PC to Ifoedit while it is updating the IFO's which can take anything upto 15 minutes or so depending on your setup. You can still use the PC but you risk upsetting the process but after a few runs you will soon learn the limits of your PC

I am quite willing to tell you all the answers to your issues if it will help you on your way to fully understanding how DS works. Most issues have already been discussed or have the simplest of solutions so I would appreciate if you would take the time to hopefully get a better understanding of how the whole process works

but feel free to raise anything you are uncertain about or have issues with as I'm sure there will be a simple answer

cheers

 

[0xdeadbeef]

again you said the result is perfect

And again there is a "but" (or in this case a "however"). I'm not sure what's confusing about this: I like the result, but not necessarily the way I get there. Imagine cleaning Lady Liberty with a toothbrush. The result might look perfect, but it would still be a pain

All of your 3 issues can be answered if you just read the guides or the forums but it looks like you are still missing vital information regarding information and basically are learning by your mistakes

And again this sounds as if I was a complete idiot though the mistake is on the side of DS and not on mine (again). I'm adapting to an instable tool chain, that's something completely different than learning by mistakes.

1. Numerous people have had this issue and some have used different players and all is fine. I myself have played items I could not see yet others could but I blame my setup not the dvd player. This is one thread HERE

Interesting though not very helpful. Doesn't change the fact that I need to analyze with DVDShrink however.

2. Sadly DS does not close the player but I have always recommended you close the player BEFORE processing. If a VOB is being used, how can it be modified?, therefore the user must manually close the player. I have just checked the htm guide and it's actually missing but it was in the PDF guide Make sure you CLOSE the DVD PLAYER before clicking Process. It will be corrected as soon as possible but you are the 1st to mention this (good spot)

It's not that DS came up with an error because I left WinDVD open. The message box appeared as I _closed_ WinDVD. Usually WinDVD doesn't block read access to the VOBs.
Besides, this recommendation is not part of the DVDStripper Guide and it's a bit optimistic to expect that I read each and every posting you made on this board or elsewhere.

3. If you read the www.DVDStripper.com page it states:
You must be willing to allow control of the PC to Ifoedit while it is updating the IFO's which can take anything upto 15 minutes or so depending on your setup. You can still use the PC but you risk upsetting the process but after a few runs you will soon learn the limits of your PC

I mean I can live with it, if you tell me "it is like it is". This is probably an issue of some kind of remote control over IfoEdit as there is no direct interface, right? However my PC is definitely not the limit, it's just that the constant popping up hinders me from doing anything serious.
No chance of getting the author of IfoEdit to implement a real interface (maybe with some bribing? )?

I am quite willing to tell you all the answers to your issues if it will help you on your way to fully understanding how DS works. Most issues have already been discussed or have the simplest of solutions so I would appreciate if you would take the time to hopefully get a better understanding of how the whole process works
but feel free to raise anything you are uncertain about or have issues with as I'm sure there will be a simple answer
cheers

I'm sure I will soon be able to work around the instabilities of the DS tool chain. There are however no simple answers/solutions as you have to admit. You should also be aware that this way of treating these issues will not improve the stability or mass compatibility of DS.

 

[MackemX]

#1.And again there is a "but" (or in this case a "however"). I'm not sure what's confusing about this: I like the result, but not necessarily the way I get there. Imagine cleaning Lady Liberty with a toothbrush. The result might look perfect, but it would still be a pain

#2.And again this sounds as if I was a complete idiot though the mistake is on the side of DS and not on mine (again). I'm adapting to an instable tool chain, that's something completely different than learning by mistakes.

#3.Interesting though not very helpful. Doesn't change the fact that I need to analyze with DVDShrink however.

#4. not that DS came up with an error because I left WinDVD open. The message box appeared as I _closed_ WinDVD. Usually WinDVD doesn't block read access to the VOBs.
Besides, this recommendation is not part of the DVDStripper Guide and it's a bit optimistic to expect that I read each and every posting you made on this board or elsewhere.

#5. I mean I can live with it, if you tell me "it is like it is". This is probably an issue of some kind of remote control over IfoEdit as there is no direct interface, right? However my PC is definitely not the limit, it's just that the constant popping up hinders me from doing anything serious.
No chance of getting the author of IfoEdit to implement a real interface (maybe with some bribing? )?

#6. I'm sure I will soon be able to work around the instabilities of the DS tool chain. There are however no simple answers/solutions as you have to admit. You should also be aware that this way of treating these issues will not improve the stability or mass compatibility of DS.

#1. the simple fact is all the 3 errors you experienced are user inflicted (1 unwittingly). OK you did not know that you could leave the player running and that is all down to a simple typo. If a VOB is playing it cannot be modified no matter what and therefore will undoubtedly cause problems
#2. typo issue again
#3. Like I said why is it some have no playback issues?. Personally I blame my setup but the answer is out there and I hope you see it that way too. If I find the answer then this fourm will be the 1st to know about it
#4. typo issue again
#5. Ifoedit is popping up windows which are automatically clicked and if you press the keys or mouse it may have an effect, that's why it's in big red letters on the main site. Most programs that use Ifoedit remotely are all easily upset as there is no way to stop user input unless you disable the keyboard and mouse
#6. most, if not all the issues you have raised are user inflicted, some due to a lack of understanding, basically known as the learning curve . The typo will be fixed in the guide ASAP (it iwll be in the hints thread) but now you know what it is then it's no longer an issue for you unless you forget

I'm sure I will soon be able to work around the instabilities of the DS tool chain. There are however no simple answers/solutions as you have to admit. You should also be aware that this way of treating these issues will not improve the stability or mass compatibility of DS.

I'm not sure what you mean as most issues you have raised do have simple solutions or have I missed something? . We are fully aware of most issues and the ones of main concern will be addressed first. Most users of DS will agree that this is the best way forward

I have given you the benefit of the doubt and you can continue to blame DS if you wish but it's clear to see there are two sides to the story as you ain't as stupid as you make out

I will leave it to other members to offer you support as most other members can answer most issues you have raised as they mainly have simple solutions

cheers