rename vob to avi
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all of this is just re-inventing the wheel.
Pretty useless if you ask me.
The argument that you just rename it to avi & then convert makes no sense.
It is actually an extra step because the old methods you just convert the vob file straight to whatever you want (with the proper software *renaming is an extra step before converting).
Also Canopus doesn't give as good quality as some of the other proggies mentioned in CM's tuts (so I guess only thing that makes sense to me is if you just like using canopus & trying to find a way to work with it better).
You are free to try other methods, but I always thought it better to go with the best & proven methods (& one that gives best results).
Anyhow, am sure you're more the expert so will just leave it at that.
Pretty useless if you ask me.
The argument that you just rename it to avi & then convert makes no sense.
It is actually an extra step because the old methods you just convert the vob file straight to whatever you want (with the proper software *renaming is an extra step before converting).
Also Canopus doesn't give as good quality as some of the other proggies mentioned in CM's tuts (so I guess only thing that makes sense to me is if you just like using canopus & trying to find a way to work with it better).
You are free to try other methods, but I always thought it better to go with the best & proven methods (& one that gives best results).
Anyhow, am sure you're more the expert so will just leave it at that.
Denexo
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shadoe_phantom
Thank you for the comments but maybe you find it "Pretty useless" as you wrote but show me a way to convert DVD to (S) VCD with free soft wares (having an acceptable quality for picture and sound)! I mean something like my method: Rip-Rename to mpeg or avi-Convert with Tmpeg! That is the sense you don’t see!
I know what you’ll say, that DVD2(S)VCD makes the same, but why should I use it, if I can do the job without it, and faster? That makes no sense!
Now about “It is actually an extra step” This is a step before converting which steps duration is a few seconds and saves you from many useless settings!
All the needful settings can apply at your converter! And I don’t understand where the complexity on my method is? What can be easier as: RIP-RENAME-CONVERT? Here is another sense!
Now if you have a better encoder as Tmpeg, something like Procoder, then is better for you. You wrote: “Canopus doesn't give as good quality as some of the other proggies mentioned in CM's tuts” well, this is another subject for discussion, but if you ask me, my answer is NO both are same maybe CCE faster but Procoder a little better and easier to use with much more features! (And Procoder isn’t so slow, look below – the converted file was a renamed 4.899.494KB vob file to mpeg and that in Highest Quality)
At the end you wrote: “I always thought it better to go with the best & proven methods” Please make a comparison in CM method and mine. Now tell me how many soft wares and settings are needed with CMs tutorial and how many with mine? “Proven methods”? Can you prove me that my method is not working; I have proved you for the opposite! With my method can everyone (beginner or advanced user) make his (S) VCDs or DVDs in 3 steps: RIP - RENAME (vob as mpeg or avi) - CONVERT !!!!
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Denexo
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jorel
i made a search and found :
cpuinf32.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32 20 KB
mplvpx.dll (MPL Video Library) in C:\WINDOWS\system32 1.096 KB
I delete (but first backup) these two dll s and i was not able to play the movie too.
also you wrote:
"try this:
with subtitles:
install dvobsub
install canopus procoder
open the movie(avi,divx...etc)in canopus,
then dvobsub open automatical(write this way?)"
I am sour i made a mistake, that´s why it doesn´t work to me. Can you give me more details?
i made a search and found :
cpuinf32.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32 20 KB
mplvpx.dll (MPL Video Library) in C:\WINDOWS\system32 1.096 KB
I delete (but first backup) these two dll s and i was not able to play the movie too. also you wrote:
"try this:
with subtitles:
install dvobsub
install canopus procoder
open the movie(avi,divx...etc)in canopus,
then dvobsub open automatical(write this way?)"
I am sour i made a mistake, that´s why it doesn´t work to me. Can you give me more details?
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Denexo
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And for those who hates Renaming:
http://www.whdl16709.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/converttovcd.htm
Thanks to:
The Author
(look at: Converting DVD To VCD)
http://www.whdl16709.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/converttovcd.htm
Thanks to:
The Author
(look at: Converting DVD To VCD)
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daveml
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All programs used in chickenmans tutorials are free or trial versions.
Once u have used his tuts once there are little or no settings to change next time.
While procoder is very good for vcd video, the ultimate in svcd for video and audio is dvd2svcd(also avi2svcd which is the same program).
It is the simplest of programs to use (just point it at the individual .exe files once and then u are away.
I have to say this thread is turning into the nero thread u were posting in last week.
Totally devoid of substance and point.
I will leave u to your obvious delusions.
U obviously have not read or used cm's tutorials , as the one for claddvd is a poor version of one of them.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, so I say "good luck".
Once u have used his tuts once there are little or no settings to change next time.
While procoder is very good for vcd video, the ultimate in svcd for video and audio is dvd2svcd(also avi2svcd which is the same program).
It is the simplest of programs to use (just point it at the individual .exe files once and then u are away.
I have to say this thread is turning into the nero thread u were posting in last week.
Totally devoid of substance and point.
I will leave u to your obvious delusions.
U obviously have not read or used cm's tutorials , as the one for claddvd is a poor version of one of them.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, so I say "good luck".
jorel
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first:Denexo said:jorel
i made a search and found :
cpuinf32.dll in C:\WINDOWS\system32 20 KB
mplvpx.dll (MPL Video Library) in C:\WINDOWS\system32 1.096 KB
also you wrote:
"try this:
with subtitles:
install dvobsub
install canopus procoder
open the movie(avi,divx...etc)in canopus,
then dvobsub open automatical(write this way?)"
i can't find this 2 dlls in my system.(98se or ME (ghost))
can you send it to me,please?
second:
use subrip to extract your subs,then open vobsub....canopus...etc,..get?
third:
without CM wise,i never do a vcd or svcd!
Denexo, I have deleted the tutorial you posted above and replaced with a direct link to it instead. You do NOT have permission from the author to do so, please do not do that again!
That procedure is all fine, of cource CloneAD have published a tut to convert DVD to VCD using their product and I'm sure it will many. Only problem is your stuck with using CladDVD XP, and I can assure it will NOT rip every DVD. Niether will SmartRipper, nor DVDDecryptor. The whole tut is based on 1 ripper and if it fails, you have no where to go other than a different method to convert that DVD. For a "beginner" that is disasterous.
Ripping a DVD to one VOB file can only be used on a NTFS (Win2000 or XP system) as the files will in 90% of the time be greater then 4gig, thats the max size of any file in Win9x. So that eliminates 1/2 the people out there. Procoder can produce some excellent results and particularly in Marstering Quality but encoding time is measured in days, not hours. Highest Quality mode is no better IMHO than CCE and CCE is still considerably faster. Have you tried converting a 2.3:1 aspect ratio movie to a 16:9 movie with Procoder, have you tried making an SVCD with 48khz audio, have you ......... the list goes on and on. Its just plain and simply not versatile enough compared to DVD2SVCD for making (S)VCD's. The absolute real pro's of SVCD even think DVD2SVCD is to tame and actually do all the steps DVD2SVCD normally does but they do them manually with all the extra added filters etc that AVISYNTH can offer.
If you want the ultimate for simplicity with quality equal to my Tutorials for a VCD, then suggest you have a look at EazyVCD. It is so simple, no tutorial needs to be written. Check out http://www.eazyvcd.tk/
That procedure is all fine, of cource CloneAD have published a tut to convert DVD to VCD using their product and I'm sure it will many. Only problem is your stuck with using CladDVD XP, and I can assure it will NOT rip every DVD. Niether will SmartRipper, nor DVDDecryptor. The whole tut is based on 1 ripper and if it fails, you have no where to go other than a different method to convert that DVD. For a "beginner" that is disasterous.
Ripping a DVD to one VOB file can only be used on a NTFS (Win2000 or XP system) as the files will in 90% of the time be greater then 4gig, thats the max size of any file in Win9x. So that eliminates 1/2 the people out there. Procoder can produce some excellent results and particularly in Marstering Quality but encoding time is measured in days, not hours. Highest Quality mode is no better IMHO than CCE and CCE is still considerably faster. Have you tried converting a 2.3:1 aspect ratio movie to a 16:9 movie with Procoder, have you tried making an SVCD with 48khz audio, have you ......... the list goes on and on. Its just plain and simply not versatile enough compared to DVD2SVCD for making (S)VCD's. The absolute real pro's of SVCD even think DVD2SVCD is to tame and actually do all the steps DVD2SVCD normally does but they do them manually with all the extra added filters etc that AVISYNTH can offer.
If you want the ultimate for simplicity with quality equal to my Tutorials for a VCD, then suggest you have a look at EazyVCD. It is so simple, no tutorial needs to be written. Check out http://www.eazyvcd.tk/
Denexo
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Daveml you wrote:
“I have to say this thread is turning into the Nero thread u were posting in last week”
Well you turning it this way, not me, i just looking for answers (which you can not give) to my questions! Also next time please read carefully the threads (inclusive this thread) before you form an idea. In Nero thread I was writing my knowledge about Nero and Kugmo´s nescience and impotence to answer to a simple question made him absurd, and pleased for Pokopiko´s help! (He was writing like an expert and he never used Nero) But even then I was carefully with my words (he wasn´t) and i tried to relate (when he asking from you to close the thread)! After that I tested RNM and posted my results (to a new thread) to have a better argument! So daveml reading carefully you will not be: "totally devoid of substance and point."
MurderOne you wrote:
“I am sticking to chickenmans guides too”
Have you tried with my way and you found any complexity? (If yes, what?) Or you make an adverse criticism without testing it? Or you just toady for a good place in Chickenmans heart? But you are free like me to use what you want, and my aim was to help!
Jorel
1- PM me and ill send you these dll s.
2 - When I ask for more details I mean something more like that you wrote (use subrip to extract your subs,then open vobsub....canopus...etc,..get?) Thank you anyway!
3- You wrote: “without CM wise, I never do a vcd or svcd!”
Well you must be happy that CM exists and make all the work for you. You don’t even need to think, CM doing this for you! After you made your (S) VCD you must be proud that you made it all alone!
ChickenMan
About the tutorial you deleted, you have right I have no permission but I didn’t made a hint that was mine and at the end I published the author!
Now about all these you wrote (about CCE, Procoder, Converting ….)
This is the first satisfactory and logically answer I take in this thread!
Thank you for that! Thank you that you don’t see my attempt, as a competition but as a second search! But can you tell me please, with arguments, for someone he has all the basic assumptions (ntfs…..) is that not simple to make his (S)VCDs?
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Like the Nero thread, this to is getting closed as well before any flaming starts. Denexo, you have stated your case along with everyone else I cannot see any point in continuing the agony.
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