[Performance] System Resources
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that was one of the major reason why i switched to win2k and everything runs fine now, even with a lot of progs running in the background
i always had that problem on win98se too and one day i was sick of it and installed win2k and i'm happy now
and i never found anything that helped to solve that problem
FortiTude
i always had that problem on win98se too and one day i was sick of it and installed win2k and i'm happy now
and i never found anything that helped to solve that problem
FortiTude
A better way to look at the problem is to measure your resources at startup. Reboot and then look at your resources and then look at the programs running in the background. The only things that really need to be running after a reboot should be Explorer, Systray, and any Anti-Virus or Firewall(if you are on Cable or DSL) software that you have. Anything else doesn't need to be running at startup and should be deleted from the Startup tab in MSConfig or from the startup folder in the Start menu. If only those programs mentioned are running, you should get between 93-98% resources free after booting up and should keep you from dropping below 65-75% available resources under normal usage in Win 98, 98SE, ME. I'm using ME and have never had my resources below 73%, even under heavy usage with multiple programs running. Aside from hardware problems or OS problems, a memory manager or more memory might help. The problem doesn't sound like it's totally the fault of the OS. Switching to Win2K or XP will help because of the way those OS's reserve a chunk of memory to themselves.
How about checking to see how many junks opened at StartUp as many of them will have system resource for breakfast.
Do Ctrl+Atl+Del to see how many of them.
Run > MSCONFIG then select "StartUp" too see if you can disable some.
I know there are many programs will try to sneak behind our backs many time a day (trying to connect to their home bases) and some firewall can detect them and some won't.
Also, keep your eyes opened on some POPUP programs as many of them love to eat system resource, same with program like FlashGet, and most P2P programs. Many of them you only need to fire it up (then exit) and they will continue to eat the system resource.
Do Ctrl+Atl+Del to see how many of them.
Run > MSCONFIG then select "StartUp" too see if you can disable some.
I know there are many programs will try to sneak behind our backs many time a day (trying to connect to their home bases) and some firewall can detect them and some won't.
Also, keep your eyes opened on some POPUP programs as many of them love to eat system resource, same with program like FlashGet, and most P2P programs. Many of them you only need to fire it up (then exit) and they will continue to eat the system resource.
from what i remember when i used ie it used more resources than opera if have many open windows, but it crashed more often so i got all the resources back and started all the browsing again... i could never keep ie open until my resources were full, it always crashed before. and it happenes more often that i closed ie completely by closing the last window but opera stays open even with now window, so i never close it. but on win2k i had opera open for several days and i never got any problems.
another comfortable thing of opera is to resume the last session, works almost always to get the windows back you had open before a crash
it's a fact that i think opera is better than ie and mozilla but i just want to show my experiences with different browsers, and i know and accept that every system has it's different problems and on some that prog works better and on another system it's another prog
and my last point is, the problems with the system resources is not a opera bug, but a windows 98 bug, i don't really know what these system resources are but every open window uses them up, it has something to do with the ram because, bigger progs like 3d studio max need more than 50% of all the system resources, so i always had to use that one as stand-alone application.
i hope it helps zozekool and i don't think we have to keep on that discussion about mozilla ie and opera we always start when somebody mentiones browser, pokopiko because we both made our point clear and i accepted yours
FortiTude
ps: one late evening after surfing a lot i noticed in the resource monitor, that i always had in my sys tray, that almost none were remaining .. 2% .. so i opened up one or two ie windows to get it to 0% system resources, but when i then wanted to take i screenshot a message opened and said not enough system resources to perform that operation
another comfortable thing of opera is to resume the last session, works almost always to get the windows back you had open before a crash
it's a fact that i think opera is better than ie and mozilla
but i just want to show my experiences with different browsers, and i know and accept that every system has it's different problems and on some that prog works better and on another system it's another progand my last point is, the problems with the system resources is not a opera bug, but a windows 98 bug, i don't really know what these system resources are but every open window uses them up, it has something to do with the ram because, bigger progs like 3d studio max need more than 50% of all the system resources, so i always had to use that one as stand-alone application.
i hope it helps zozekool and i don't think we have to keep on that discussion about mozilla ie and opera we always start when somebody mentiones browser, pokopiko
because we both made our point clear and i accepted yoursFortiTude
ps: one late evening after surfing a lot i noticed in the resource monitor, that i always had in my sys tray, that almost none were remaining .. 2% .. so i opened up one or two ie windows to get it to 0% system resources, but when i then wanted to take i screenshot a message opened and said not enough system resources to perform that operation
FortiTude has a point. As I said earlier, the OS is not totally at fault. Nor is the particular app you are running. However, with Win2K and XP, the operating system reserves a chunk of memory and resources for itself and no other application can get a piece of it. This makes it unlikely that the system will crash, but does not guarantee that the app or apps won't crash. Win 9x, Me shares the memory and resources with the applications and naturally is more crash prone. You just have to keep in mind the number of apps and browser windows you keep open at one time. Also keep in mind that some applications don't mix well with others. If you keep in mind the abilities and limitations of your OS you should be fine whether you use an NT kernel OS (2000, XP) or a 9x OS. If you want to run many apps at once and keep a large # of browser windows open, then you might consider 2000 or XP.
ZoZekool, I can't really explain exactly why, but memory does not necessarily mean resources. The best way to explain it is to imagine a highway with many lanes. The lanes are your resources. Some lanes move faster than others. Sometimes a bottleneck occurs and the lanes all come to a standstill. At least thats the way my MCSE instructor explained it. So how things run can depend on how many vehicles you have moving in those lanes and what type of vehicle. More memory will help by making the vehicles move through the lanes faster but it won't get you any more lanes on the highway. If an app causes a bottleneck, it doesn't matter how much memory you have.