Nice audio warble...NOT!

[rebootjim]

I thought I knew my way around SVCD, but this has me baffled.
This particular avi is 14.985fps (half NTSC), with fairly normal audio.
It's actually two clips, joined and filtered in vdub.
Ultimately, I want to cut it into 3 clips, either in vdub, or the encoder (Mainconcept, Canopus, or tmpgenc, doesn't matter), and author to SVCD.
I could make a dvd from it, but the quality isn't there.
I have extracted audio, resampled audio, converted audio, remuxed audio, and generally been messing with this project for almost 2 weeks.
The audio is perfect on the original avi's and on the joined as well, but once encoded to mpeg (vcd, svcd, dvd, I tried all 3), it warbles, like a fairly quick vibratto effect, and it really sucks.

Anyone have any ideas how to get the nice clean, crisp audio to stick around after encoding?
I have ONE successful attempt, and that's by muxing the audio and video in dvdlab during compiling. Every other attempt to mux/encode audio produces crap.

 

[VIPER_1069]

not sure if this is what you have done already but .... have you demuxed the audio out with tmpgenc along with the video then fed them both to dvd lab and tried to process !?

 

[rebootjim]

Yes, that's how I got the one good output, but i want to make a 3 disk SVCD set, not dvd.
It's just good enough to do SVCD, better than VCD and not good enough to waste a disk for dvdr.

 

[celtic_druid]

What you have is a VCD re-encode. My advice would be, after you have watched it to simply delete it and if you still want it on SVCD, go look for a SVCD release.

 

[ChickenMan]

"I have extracted audio, resampled audio, converted audio, remuxed audio,..." Well it all depends on what software you used, I'd suggest you try it all with different software. Or better still, take C_D's advice

 

[rebootjim]

Heh, thanks
I wasn't trying to pull one over on you guys, really.
It's actually not a VCD re-encode, it's a cam that's been through AVS video, with some id10t's idea of the "right" way to compress video.
Software used includes Audacity (too limiting), Goldwave, and Soundforge. I probably just don't know enough about the settings...
To make a long story short, there's nothing wrong with the audio! Turns out that WMP and 3 or 4 other players were screwing it up. Once viewed in WinDVD, it's perfect, so I burned a test disk, and it too is just fine. @#^#&$& WMP!

BTW, Chicken-Man, I found an ancient (over a year old) post by you, dealing with audio sync fixing, on CD-Club. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59487
The method for fixing progressive sync has served me well many times. It's too bad that more people can't seem to use google, or there wouldn't be the thousands of posts, on various boards, all asking the same question.

 

[ChickenMan]

BTW, Chicken-Man, I found an ancient (over a year old) post by you, dealing with audio sync fixing, on CD-Club. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59487
The method for fixing progressive sync has served me well many times. It's too bad that more people can't seem to use google, or there wouldn't be the thousands of posts, on various boards, all asking the same question.

Yep, its was posted here first also http://www.dvdrbase.com/showthread.php?t=10651 It has searved me well in the past but its been years since I ever needed to use it myself, I just dont get progressive audio sync problems any more. Then I dont play with VCD/SVCD's anymore either.

The general problem is its easier to just ask than actually do something yourself like use Google or the Search button. If I had a $ for everytime the question "How do I convert this avi to a ....", I'd be a very rich man. The same people seam to find this forum to ask the question but fail to see the Tutorial section to do some reading for themselves. Arr well, it takes all kinds Believe me, it can get very frustrating at times.