Left side of picture is cut off on a DVD player, but not on the computer.

JUST a thought here have you tried encoding to PAL format and not NTSC as per PAL ratio of 720 x 576 pixels instead of the NTSC 720x480 pixels and see if this makes a difference ... a good tip here is to have a practice burn using a dvdrw :)
 

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Do you think if I reformat the hard drive, and do a fresh install of windows, it will fix the problem? I don't really mind doing it, because I have 2 hard drives, and all of my documents and things are on the secondary hard drive. I'm just afraid that I will do all that, and then the problem still won't be fixed. Any thoughts on this?
 
c_wag03 said:
Do you think if I reformat the hard drive, and do a fresh install of windows, it will fix the problem? I don't really mind doing it, because I have 2 hard drives, and all of my documents and things are on the secondary hard drive. I'm just afraid that I will do all that, and then the problem still won't be fixed. Any thoughts on this?
That was just what I was about to suggest. Obviously something is really screwed up.
 

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Well, are you ready for this...I reinstalled windows, and, guess what, still the same problem. I guess that means it's a problem with the burner? But if that was the case, then why does it still burn some things (like copied DVDs, or old image files) correctly. It makes absolutely no sense. I guess I sould take out my burner and try it in another computer...

I was thinking, that when I recorded the Laurel and Hardy video the first time, I had a VCR set up vertically right beside my tower. Could the magnets in the VCR have messed something up in the burner or something else in the tower? I mean, I'm trying to think of anything I did differently, and that's really the only explanation I can think of. But that still doesn't explain why the burner still burns other things correctly.

Anbody have any ideas?
 
@ c_wag03,

I would suspect a video card and/or capture card hardware problem before I would suspect your DVD Burner as the problem.

Regards,
Coaster
 

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Coaster said:
@ c_wag03,

I would suspect a video card and/or capture card hardware problem before I would suspect your DVD Burner as the problem.

Regards,
Coaster
You think it could be a video card problem? Even though mpeg files that were recorded before the problem started have the same problem? Does the video/graphics card play a part in the burning process?
 
Video graphics card has nothing to do with burning, well other than displaying the status screen.

Seems to me still as I suggested way back at the begining that it is simply being cut off by the TV's overscan. I mean you said it displays fine on your PC which means that the whole image is being capture, would therefor be authored and on the final disc.
 

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celtic_druid said:
Video graphics card has nothing to do with burning, well other than displaying the status screen.

Seems to me still as I suggested way back at the begining that it is simply being cut off by the TV's overscan. I mean you said it displays fine on your PC which means that the whole image is being capture, would therefor be authored and on the final disc.
I wish it were that simple...but I've tried the discs on 3 different DVD players with 3 different TV's, and its the same on all of them.
 
@ celtic_druid -

The reason I suggest a video capture card problem is because the video capture card is were to VHS input signal is received into the computer. The signal from the Leadtek WinFast TV 2000 XP capture card is what is being decoded and converted to MPEG2 and burned with the computer DVD burner. On the computer the signal received from Leadtek WinFast TV 2000 XP capture card might appear properly on the computer monitor but the computer monitor sweep scanning is different than the sweep scanning of a Television screen.


@ c-wag03 -

Suggest running your finished DVD+RW media burned with your computer DVD burner through Kprobe, SmartBurn or similar media analyzer scanner software to see if your burned DVD+RW media has any errors. This test will reveal if your burned DVD+RW media and/or DVD burner is suspect. If your finished DVD+RW media burned with your computer DVD burner checks out OK you have ruled out your DVD burner as the problem.

Perchance can your provide the your DVD burner manufacture name and model number? Also if possible could you provide the media manufacturer name ID and media code of the DVD+RW that you are using?

Regards,
Coaster
 

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Coaster,
I'll answer your other questions soon, but I just want to clear up that I don't think it could be a problem with the capture card. If it was the capture card, then only files that were recorded after the problem started would be problematic, right? But, I have tried burning mpeg-2 files that were still on my HD, and have worked fine before, with the same problem. So I don't think it is a problem with the capture card...so to me that pretty much only leaves the burner as suspect. BTW, do you have a link to where I can download any of those media analyzing programs?
 
Can you post here a picture of the problem. Can you take a picture (digital camera) of a movie that plays fine on both the PC and TV. Then one that works fine on the PC and not on the TV. The 4 photos please so we can really see the problem your refering to.
 
@ c-wag03,

You asked for a link for media analyzer scanner software that I made reference to in my pervious posting in this thread.

Below are a couple of links -


Kprobe -
h**p://kprobe.cdfreaks.com/R5B7g0/KP2Setup2.1.0.exe

SmartBurn -
h**p://www.liteonit.com/ODD/Zip/SMARTBURN.zip

DVD Identifier -
h**p://www.sofotex.com/cgi-bin/ls/jump.cgi?ID=15199

DVD Info Pro -
h**p://www.dvdinfopro.com/download/dvdinfo2.zip
 
Here is something else you might find usefull. I knocked it up the other day to see just how bad overscan was on my TV. It is simply different colour rectangles shrinking by 16 pixels. On PC you will see everything, on my TV I am missing at least one bar on all sides.
 

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I will try the media analyzing software, and get back with you. I will post some pictures sometime...I don't have a digital camera myself, so I'll borrow one...
 

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Go to this link to see the pictures I took...

http://www.geocities.com/c_wag03/DVDpics

FYI, the resolution on "Laurel and Hardy DVD on living room DVD player" Picture looks a lot worse than the image on the TV. It was just the camera that made it look pink like that. The colors are fine.
 
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Agree with C-D, what your seeing is just the TV overscan. There is 10% of the picture lost on left and right sides, thats normal. Remember, pictures like Laurel & Hardy were made for oldtime picture theartres and almost no moden day movies has writting that close to the edge of the screen. On the PC screen the distance from edge of the O (of Oliver) and the Y (of Hardy) is not the same, its not centralized to start with. The loss of picture on the TV is the same both left and right. There is normally 5-7% pic loss top & bottom on a TV and thats about what your getting as well.

Solution, buy a new thin Plasma or LCD TV.
 

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ChickenMan said:
Agree with C-D, what your seeing is just the TV overscan. There is 10% of the picture lost on left and right sides, thats normal. Remember, pictures like Laurel & Hardy were made for oldtime picture theartres and almost no moden day movies has writting that close to the edge of the screen. On the PC screen the distance from edge of the O (of Oliver) and the Y (of Hardy) is not the same, its not centralized to start with. The loss of picture on the TV is the same both left and right. There is normally 5-7% pic loss top & bottom on a TV and thats about what your getting as well.

Solution, buy a new thin Plasma or LCD TV.
So your saying it's just normal then? And I guess it is like that on the South Park DVD...I just never noticed it. That kinda sux. So if I go burn it with my neighbors computer and DVD burner, it should look the same right? I guess I can live with it...but if I had a widescreen TV, it would look fine?
 
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im sure with a little help with chicky and celtic they can guide you how to change the ratio to fit the screen not sure how well that would come out but its worth a try at least :)
 
c_wag03 said:
So your saying it's just normal then? And I guess it is like that on the South Park DVD...I just never noticed it. That kinda sux. So if I go burn it with my neighbors computer and DVD burner, it should look the same right? I guess I can live with it...but if I had a widescreen TV, it would look fine?
Yep, thats normal, every TV show, VHS Video & DVD your watched on your TV has that cropping. Its an inherent design of the TV and has always been that way. Learn to live with it :D or get a LCD screen TV. A CRT widescreen TV will still chop top & bottom off (but only slightly) but you will see the left & right sides complete when it a 4:3 film (but still chopped when its a wides screen 16:9 film).
 
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