For those Who hates Nero
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Denexo
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to all who hates Nero:
You can laugh, or you can have 20 burning software installed on your system just to burn one cd, it’s your right!
I used, use and will use Nero to burn my cds. Just one software to make my backups, music, video, data cds and……Extract, convert, rip all in one!
Question.
What do you used to burn your mp3s on normal audio cd before 2-3 years ago? What do you used to make a backup from your play station? What do you used to burn a video cd to watch it on a Philips CDI player? What do you use to rip and convert audio tracks from cd to hard disk? What do you used to burn your data, photo,music .......cds?
What do you use to burn your DVDs?
I used and use NERO just one software!
You can laugh, or you can have 20 burning software installed on your system just to burn one cd, it’s your right!
I used, use and will use Nero to burn my cds. Just one software to make my backups, music, video, data cds and……Extract, convert, rip all in one!
Question.
What do you used to burn your mp3s on normal audio cd before 2-3 years ago? What do you used to make a backup from your play station? What do you used to burn a video cd to watch it on a Philips CDI player? What do you use to rip and convert audio tracks from cd to hard disk? What do you used to burn your data, photo,music .......cds?
What do you use to burn your DVDs?
I used and use NERO just one software!
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kugmo
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Almost FOUR years ago, I used RecordNow Max, after Roxio (then Adaptec) EZ-CD Cremator made too many coasters for me. RNM works well, its pxengine is robust, and the app does not eat up too much of the system's resources. Today, I still use RecordNow Max -- v4.50.
Nero LOOKS stable, but look under the hood. If you're running Win2K, check resource usage under task manager. Why do you think they advise you to shut down other running apps?
Of course you gotta use Nero -- isn't it BUNDLED with most writers?
Nero LOOKS stable, but look under the hood. If you're running Win2K, check resource usage under task manager. Why do you think they advise you to shut down other running apps?
Of course you gotta use Nero -- isn't it BUNDLED with most writers?
Denexo
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Kugmo my son:
I use nero on a system running XP, but i used to use it with 98, 98SE, ME and 2K. I don´t know about their advice to shut down other running apps, and i am in potition to say them that, when i burn i hear my favorite song with WMP, chat with ICQ, have a voice conversation with MSN,surf in my favorite forum, download a movie with Kazaa, and if i have time scan my disk with Ad-aware!
About stability: i forget what "crash" means seems i use Nero! Coasters: What is this? i think is an advantage for others burning softwares!
I use nero on a system running XP, but i used to use it with 98, 98SE, ME and 2K. I don´t know about their advice to shut down other running apps, and i am in potition to say them that, when i burn i hear my favorite song with WMP, chat with ICQ, have a voice conversation with MSN,surf in my favorite forum, download a movie with Kazaa, and if i have time scan my disk with Ad-aware!
About stability: i forget what "crash" means seems i use Nero! Coasters: What is this? i think is an advantage for others burning softwares!
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kugmo
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Denexo, oh wise and sage Jedi,
Please check section 14.1.6 of the Nero user manual (downloadable from ahead.de, of course). The section is entitled "Buffer Underrrun Errors" and it DOES advice you to close other running apps, just like any other app will ask you to do.
Sure, you can do all those, but how many times did buffer underrun protection kick in during the burn process? Try that with a writer that does not have buffer underrun protection built in.
Also, next time, try something other than a disk scan. Try DEFRAGGING while burning and see how far it goes. Also try running a huge Adobe app at the same time. Check the results.
I'm not preaching how bad Nero is and how good others are, but one time I installed it out of curiosity, and as they say, first impressions last forever, and that was the dreaded 5.5.6.X version.
Claiming that you've never burned a coaster means:
1. ...that you have never owned a pre-1999 writer.
2. ...that you actually have collection of such but are too proud to admit it.
3. ...that you don't know what a coaster is.
4. ...that you work for ahead or roxio, and corporate edict has it that "coaster" is a taboo word in the corporate hallways.
Confucius say, "Man who fart in church sit in own pew" -- food for thought, o wise and sage Jedi buddy Denexo.
Please check section 14.1.6 of the Nero user manual (downloadable from ahead.de, of course). The section is entitled "Buffer Underrrun Errors" and it DOES advice you to close other running apps, just like any other app will ask you to do.
Sure, you can do all those, but how many times did buffer underrun protection kick in during the burn process? Try that with a writer that does not have buffer underrun protection built in.
Also, next time, try something other than a disk scan. Try DEFRAGGING while burning and see how far it goes. Also try running a huge Adobe app at the same time. Check the results.
I'm not preaching how bad Nero is and how good others are, but one time I installed it out of curiosity, and as they say, first impressions last forever, and that was the dreaded 5.5.6.X version.
Claiming that you've never burned a coaster means:
1. ...that you have never owned a pre-1999 writer.
2. ...that you actually have collection of such but are too proud to admit it.
3. ...that you don't know what a coaster is.
4. ...that you work for ahead or roxio, and corporate edict has it that "coaster" is a taboo word in the corporate hallways.
Confucius say, "Man who fart in church sit in own pew" -- food for thought, o wise and sage Jedi buddy Denexo.
Denexo
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kugmo
DEFRAGGING while burning, I have never try, why sould i and DEFRAGGING while burning you must be ?? to do that, and i believe if you do that then defragging will have problems and not Nero but, i have many patritions one of them is used from software like Nero, Tmpeg, Sound Forge and.....just to cache files, making images, use for temp files and ...... ! So in this case pprobably i can burn and defraggung C: or ??
About "coaster" you are wrong on all 4 thoughts !
1- i was proud because i had a cd writer which was possible to burn with 2X It was a sony with a revolution way to put and take the cds from inside!
2- I actually had collection when i used other burning software
3- I known what coaster is
4 - i don´t work for ahead or roxio
If Nero for some reasons have problems on a system, it doesn´t mean that is a bad software, and will have problems on all systems! Nero had worked always on my pc, with any OS i had, and any cd writer! Nero is always one step forward. Ahead cares for making Nero one up-to-date, multi burn software with many features, and not for a specific use! That may explain a lot.
DEFRAGGING while burning, I have never try, why sould i and DEFRAGGING while burning you must be ?? to do that, and i believe if you do that then defragging will have problems and not Nero but, i have many patritions one of them is used from software like Nero, Tmpeg, Sound Forge and.....just to cache files, making images, use for temp files and ...... ! So in this case pprobably i can burn and defraggung C: or ??
About "coaster" you are wrong on all 4 thoughts !
1- i was proud because i had a cd writer which was possible to burn with 2X It was a sony with a revolution way to put and take the cds from inside!
2- I actually had collection when i used other burning software
3- I known what coaster is
4 - i don´t work for ahead or roxio
If Nero for some reasons have problems on a system, it doesn´t mean that is a bad software, and will have problems on all systems! Nero had worked always on my pc, with any OS i had, and any cd writer! Nero is always one step forward. Ahead cares for making Nero one up-to-date, multi burn software with many features, and not for a specific use! That may explain a lot.
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kugmo
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defragging and burning, weird as it is, does represent an extreme pass/fail test for the system, doesn't it?
didn't you mention a system scan among the many other process you were running while burning a disc? for the record, my temp is on my c:\ drive, and that's where most burning apps cache the files. i've tried it with RNM, both on my T1300 Thinkpad and my P4 desktop -- not even a hiccup. defrag prog in these cases was NOT the Microsoft-supplied one, but O&O. It's worked for me. Try it -- use rewritables, though, for testing.
Wrong on all 4 thoughts? Let's take it from last to first...
4 - if you worked for either one, we wouldn't be discussing these now, would we?
3 - of course you know what a coaster is...
2 - ...you have a collection...aha, you admit it, at least...but with other burning software, yeah, sure...thought you've only used nero?
1 - ...let me correct that.. make it pre-1997, when Burn-Proof was unheard of, and a 1MB buffer was a cool thing to have.
Again, I will state it, and I am not here to belittle your affirmations regarding Nero, nor to start a pissing match. My first experience with Nero was not a happy one, and experience will teach one to be careful the next time around. Same reason why I gave up on Sony writers last month, I had to return 3 -- yes, 3 -- writers to the dealer within 1 week, all under warranty -- bad batch shipment.
If Nero works best for you, then best of luck 2 ya. In my opinion, though, multi-burning on 2 drives and hovering at about 25% of my system's resources (which nero does) is a wee bit too much. Check resource levels with RNM and compare them with Nero.
Name one thing Nero does that RNM can't.
didn't you mention a system scan among the many other process you were running while burning a disc? for the record, my temp is on my c:\ drive, and that's where most burning apps cache the files. i've tried it with RNM, both on my T1300 Thinkpad and my P4 desktop -- not even a hiccup. defrag prog in these cases was NOT the Microsoft-supplied one, but O&O. It's worked for me. Try it -- use rewritables, though, for testing.
Wrong on all 4 thoughts? Let's take it from last to first...
4 - if you worked for either one, we wouldn't be discussing these now, would we?
3 - of course you know what a coaster is...
2 - ...you have a collection...aha, you admit it, at least...but with other burning software, yeah, sure...thought you've only used nero?
1 - ...let me correct that.. make it pre-1997, when Burn-Proof was unheard of, and a 1MB buffer was a cool thing to have.
Again, I will state it, and I am not here to belittle your affirmations regarding Nero, nor to start a pissing match. My first experience with Nero was not a happy one, and experience will teach one to be careful the next time around. Same reason why I gave up on Sony writers last month, I had to return 3 -- yes, 3 -- writers to the dealer within 1 week, all under warranty -- bad batch shipment.
If Nero works best for you, then best of luck 2 ya. In my opinion, though, multi-burning on 2 drives and hovering at about 25% of my system's resources (which nero does) is a wee bit too much. Check resource levels with RNM and compare them with Nero.
Name one thing Nero does that RNM can't.
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