Folder Too Big after chickmans tutorial

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SKOOLGUY

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Hi yes ive used the same avi and i followed your instructions as carefully as i can.

When i get home around 3.10 ish i will post a pic of what errors i am getting...hopefully you can help me correct them.

Looked at Gspot and looks like it just a codec.

Cheers
 
ChickenMan

ChickenMan

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GSPOT is a program that tells you, me , everytone what codec is being uised in the avi your trying to convert. As previously asked, please report the video & audio results GSPOT says about the avi. We are all wandering in the dark until you do that.
 
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DVDMan007

Member
Hello Rite ive downloaded GSpot and this is my results.

FILE

Size : 1,402MB

STREAM TYPE

Type: Open DML AVI
I/L: 1 Vid Frame (42 ms) Split: Yes

AUDIO

Bitrate: 448kbs (5/ch stereo)CBR Fs: 48000 Hz

VIDEO

4CC: xvid Name: XviD
Stat: 4 compatible codecs Installed
Runtime: 02:26:46 x:y 576x240 (2.40.1)
Bitrate: 882kb FPS: 23.97 QF: 0.266 bits/pixel

Ive attached a photo of the errors i get on TMPGEnc. There is two Errors.

If possible i would like to use both Usernames for a reason.

Please Help Me.

Cheers
 

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ChickenMan

ChickenMan

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The GSPOT result for the audio indicates its AC3 5ch at a Bitrate of 448. If you set audio bitrate to 192/224 in DVD2SVCD then no wonder you final image is just that bit to large. A 5 ch stream is twice the size of a 2ch stream. I say again for the 3rd time, :( if the audio is 2ch set bitrate yo 224, if 5ch then set to 384 (the max DVD2SVCD goes to).

Again, if you have read any of the posts here or used the search button, you will also know to ignore the second error message you have with TMPGenc DVD Author.
 
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DVDMan007

Member
dont you worry mate i have read some posts. i have not just come on here and asked questions... im very new to this and when i get eroors like that you start to worry.

Im finding it hard how to recognise if the audio on a film is 5ch ac3 or 2ch ac3... if it is 5ch or 2ch ac3 do i still need to chance my mp2 audio to ac3 using ac3machine?

Im sure that on my first attempt i put the audio on DVD2SVCD as 384 and it was EVEN bigger.

Cheers
 
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hamcom

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ChickenMan said:
The GSPOT result for the audio indicates its AC3 5ch at a Bitrate of 448. If you set audio bitrate to 192/224 in DVD2SVCD then no wonder you final image is just that bit to large. A 5 ch stream is twice the size of a 2ch stream.
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Now I'm confused. (maybe). As you rightly say, 5ch stream is bigger than 2ch, then why would DVDMan007's encoding audio at 192 or even 224 make his final image size too big. (well ... bigger than if he had chosen 5ch at 448 Br).
Is it just a case of using too high a bit rate for the video instead ?
Or is it a 'qwirk' of the way DVD2SVCD handles the conversion of differing bitrate audio.
I dont know, but I just guessed the audio would have been made smaller , thus giving a smaller than expected final size.
Now I enthusiastically await someone's explanation.

cheers. Hamcom
 
ChickenMan

ChickenMan

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If you enter an audio bitrate of 192 for an AVI conversion and the actual audio is at 448, if you use the original extracted audio ac3 files, then of course the final DVD Vob set is going to be to big. If you selected 384 (there is NO 448 selection in DVD2SVCD) and used the original 448, then the final VOB files could be just a fraction oversized. If in the Bitrate Tab you set the CD size to be 4400 and not anything higher, that will always give a bit of "elbo room" for such encodes.

I have updated the Tutorial, check it out.
 
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hamcom

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Thanx for the reply. And I thought DVD2SVCD would actually re-encode the audio if you happen to enter a lower bitrate than it actually is. Isn't it able to do that. I guess it just rips it then and puts it with the video once the video is finished encoding.

thanx.
 
ChickenMan

ChickenMan

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Your right it does, but its an MP2 file which is NOT what we want, we want the original AC3, thats where the problem lies.
 
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