Florida Firm Seeks to Microchip Americans (Reuters)

A Washington forum debated on Friday the benefits and hazards posed by a new way of identifying people with a microchip implanted under their skin to replace conventional paper identification.

The heated debate at the National Academies, a non-profit think-tank advising the government on matters of technology and science, focused on the threat to individual privacy versus the convenience of switching to a chip.

Implanted microchips have long been used in the animal kingdom, to track wildlife and to help pet owners recover their lost animals, but the idea of using them on humans has sparked fierce criticism from scientists and privacy advocates alike.

"We have absolutely no data about this particular product and about the implications over the long term if Americans are chipped," Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, said.

Applied Digital Solutions Inc. ADSX.O says its glass capsule the size of a grain of rice, injected into forearms and other fleshy body parts, could help authorities find missing persons and speed up medical diagnosis treatment.

The VeriChip, a scannable device worn under the skin and encrypted with personal information like medical records and emergency contacts, was unveiled last year in Florida.

So far about 20 people have been "chipped," including an entire family in Florida.

"I can't feel them at all," said Richard Seeling, an Applied Digital executive who has implanted two microchips into his right forearm to test the product. "Most of the time I forget they're there until someone asks about it."

Seeling said the chips were both painless and safe but scientists at the National Academies said too little was known about the device and warned it could pose health risks like infections and immunity disorders for bearers.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration ruled in October it would not regulate the device so long as it was not used for medical purposes such as diagnosis.

This left Applied Digital free to market the chip for personal identification and security, for instance locating missing children or identifying car accident victims.

"I do think there could be beneficial uses, particularly for Alzheimer's patients, but on a large scale this is essentially a system of control," Rotenberg said.

Privacy advocates worry the microchip could spell the end of anonymity in the United States, particularly if authorities began requiring people to wear them to meet conditions of parole, employment or border crossings.

Seeling said each chip costs about $200, and that scanner devices needed to read the data would be targeted for sale to police, hospitals, schools and other agencies across the United States.
 
If they place them in a standard position, like in the hand to use as access keys etc., it brings a gruesome new twist to "identity theft"!
 
Thankfully we also have the 2nd Amendment to protect us from this. ;)

For those of you that don't know, the 2nd Amendment is in the U.S. Constitution. It states that we have the right to keep and bear arms (firearms). I wouldn't have a problem if they wanted to implant violent prisoners though.

Strype
 
hahaha, they could never confiscate all of my guns. i don't even know where they all are or exactly how many i have.

i know it's a strange concept to people in many countries but the great majority of crimes committed with guns are committed by people that own guns illegally. since they are illegal no laws will stop this.

besides, this implanting issue can never be implemented because of the constitutional right to privacy. let's hope that the bush administration can't take away all of our civil liberties.
 

dx

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As much as I hate to admidt it netman...its not the Bush administration that wants to take that liberty away from you. It's the previous administration and his party that do.

But I do agree with you, it's the illegal use of guns that will be our downfall.
 
oh i'm not talking about the right to own guns, no administration can take that away thank god. even though i'm a staunch democrat i can't understand their stance on gun control. i was referring to the civil liberties regarding search and seizure and privacy that they want to kill with this new homeland security act.

i am a firm believer in gun control though. if you can't hit what you're aiming at then you have no business with a gun. :D
 

dx

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Yep agreed mate...but the day when all legal guns are outlawed here are closer than you think. Its just a matter of time, just like it was with Canada and with most of Europe.

Anyway it seems we have all gotten off track with this thread. Start with one idea and finish with another...don't you just love how we do that here! ;)
 
dxkim said:
Anyway it seems we have all gotten off track with this thread. Start with one idea and finish with another...don't you just love how we do that here! ;)
yeah, what were we talking about anyway? :p

i guess this is off topic off topic. ;)
 
The-poacher said:
Strype the biggest ailment in the USA is guns caused by that amendment.
Let's just agree to disagree. This isn't a Utopia were we don't have a need to defend ourselves. Some of us choose not to be victims and think it is prudent to defend our families from harm. We just choose to be responsible gun owners at the same time. ;)

Okay, back on subject. I Thank God that nobody will put a chip in my head against my will. And if it is government sponsored, I have the 2nd Amendment to fall back on.


Strype
 
Guns dont kill anyone but people who use em do & because of the right to "bear arms" there are so many legal & illegal guns that 1000's die each year because of that.
 
The gun issue is a matter of society, America is a totaly different society compared to england as regards the gun laws.
True in america you have to be able to defend yourself with whatever means you have and in england there are not so many shooting as we have a very strict gun law enforcement(of which im thankfull for).
and now all handguns are outlawed we have even less to fear.

that real fact is if you have less guns about there will be less gun related killings.

I realise in america it is totaly different, the country was collonised and back then people HAD to fight to keep there propperty, but i do feel that "the right to bear arms" is an outdated concept now as it has gotten out of hand.

I would like to know about austrailia,what are there gun laws?, as austrailia is kind of like a mix between england and america IMHO(any austrailians please dont take offence at that :D ).
 
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