few questions about CD writing softwares

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ubamous3

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Hi,

I have been told by many that Adaptec easyCD creator sucks and most recommend nero; what's so much better about nero besides the more advanced features than ezcd creator? Does nero use a different writing/coding process or all those prog. use the same method?

I bought ezcd creator first and got used to it, but i found that a fair amount of my avis/mpg files recorded on there are corrupt;
(i.e. i can't view them, and i couldnt even copy them to hd); does anyone know what usually causes them to go bad? i mean, when i burned them to cd, i'd have no idea if all the data got burned correctly or not with ezcd creator.

i tried using badcopy pro to try to salvage them, but i could manage to save only a few of them; anyone know of a more powerful data recovery program than out there?
 
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shadoe_phantom

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Well nero doesn't corrupt or mess up as badly as Sleazy Creamator (lol).
EZCD is easy to use & perhaps not a bad tool for someone to start with just for backing up some data off your HDD, but when it comes to other things, it just isn't reliable.
Nero is better for this, though there are some issues with it also (lately someone from EZCD that left has joined the Nero team, & their product is getting worse & worse).
If you want a knowledgable opinion, I would suggest you go for NTI CD Maker instead (more stable than Nero & deffinately than EZCD).
Keep in mind that these programs are only useful as mastering suites (learning the ropes, data back-up, VCD/SVCD burning & a few other things). When you want to copy other CDs (especially copy-protected), you will need to use the right tools & that would mean CloneCD, BlindWrite, DiscJuggler, FantomCD, etc... .
All software have their good & bad points, just some have more bad points than others.
Good luck & just sift through the other comments you are sure to get for your final answer.
 
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ubamous3

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thanks for the tip; i'm gonna dl nti cd maker pro now; stability and reliability is what i m looking for in these softwares as i have more data burning need than cd to cd copying.
 
Almighty1

Almighty1

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Hmm, while we're on the subject. Is EZ CD Creator Platinum 5.1 any good for audio CD's with either Easy Creator or the Soundstream app compared to Nero when burning either Wav's or MP3's to a audio CD?
 
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ubamous3

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ok, i installed nti cd maker pro and tried to burn the first data cd (a few avi's)...

now, there's a feature (which i also see in nero) called data verification ; i checked that feature...when it was done, it printed a log, and on the log it said the data from source is different than destination.....

then i tried to play the avi directly from the cdrw drive and i couldnt (it says couldnt find the necessary codec); i then tried to played the source avi and i could play it fine.... so does that mean that u can only tell if your media is burned correctly if it doesnt print a data log like that? i mean, heaven forbids, if u have to test every single file manually after burning,that'd take forever.
 
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ubamous3

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pokopiko said:
Could not find the necessary codec/data do not match: Most probably your AVI's are non-standard ones (probably divx?)
To play divx you need either a divx player, or a divx codec which will allow some multimedia players to run them as they should.

(well, i do know that, but what's weird is why can i view it from the source file on the HD but not on the burned CD?)

If you did not compile a VCD/SVCD disk then data SHOULD match, so try burning them as mode2 data, and at a lower speed. And no, verification does not last forever, takes only some 3-4 minutes.
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what does compiling a VCD/SVCD disk mean? i burned it as data, not as a vcd or svcd
 
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shadoe_phantom

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VCDs/SVCDs are special mpg/mpeg files made (video CDs) with very strict conditions (you have to use certain programs to make proper standard compliant vcd/svcd mpg/mpeg files. Then can you only burn them as a vcd/svcd disc.
These discs can then be played on standalone vcd/svcd/DVD players (if the DVD player supports them). Quality wise they are better than VHS & just below DVD (depending how good your original source was *eg: DVD rip).
You shouldn't have to worry about this, as you just seem to want to backup your avi files (save as just data). Then you just have to make sure whichever PC you use, has the right codec to play them (divx 3.11/4.x/5.x/xvid etc...).
 
Almighty1

Almighty1

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joripe,

Isn't EAC more of a Digital Audio Extractor? I already have Plextor Manager 2000 for that. I like Nero because it can remove the gaps between each track.
 
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cdorders

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EAC is perfect for Audio Extraction. Anyway, the choice is yours, see what suits you best. But since your CD-RW drive is supported by EAC or Feurio, then give them a try, they really worth it ;)
 
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Almighty1

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pokopiko said:


EAC can not only remove the gaps, but also set them (all of them, or each one separately) to any custom size, scaled in tenths of a second (0.1 sec), from 0 seconds up to eleven hours... (the second option is very handy if you can find and buy 14,000 minutes' CD's). also do crossfading, basic mixing, re-indexing...
And it's no secret that regarding ANY audio job, including burning with suitable writers (Plextors, Ricohs, Teacs and Lite-Ons- possibly more brands- work PERFECTLY with EAC) it sends Nero to the cleaners.
And almighty one, Plextor Manager is Plextor's black sheep: supposedly user friendly, but buggy and limited. Plextools is equally good to EAC as an extractor if you have a Plex device, but NOT the Plexmanager crap.
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Interesting.. I always thought Plextor Manager's DAE was good since it does the error correction when extracting. I guess I'll give EAC a try. Where do I get it and is there a crack?
 
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LTR12101B

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w*w.exactaudiocopy.de

And the "crack" is to thank the guy by sending a postcard - then you are officially registered!

PS. EAC can also burn to many CD-R(W) drives - but this has been a little shaky in some updates.

It also loooks a hell of a lot better now than it used to - developing into a really nice app.

The noise reduction is truly impressive on sustained noise if you can collect a noise-only sample to set up with.
I tried it on speech over fan noise, and it knifed it clean out - not just silence muting, but from UNDER the audio - even from OVER it in a more extreme test - though at "communications" quality in that one!
 
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shadoe_phantom

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another thing to note. Some people put the "normalize" to 100%. You are better off putting it to 98% or so, unless you like those crackle pop sounds you get from those downloaded off peer2peer clients. (this will make sure you don't get them)
 
Almighty1

Almighty1

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Thanks guys... I got EAC but confused on how to use it. I'll take a look at the guide pokopiko posted and hopefully it'll help.
 
Almighty1

Almighty1

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Okay guys, I have a question about burning MP3's to CDR to make it a Audio CD. I noticed normally with Wave files to CDR, the burned area would start and end in one color but when I tried putting MP3's to a CDR as Audio CD in Nero, it first burns a ring from the hub ring about 1/2" then there it starts burning again to the edge of the CDR. Is this normal? Since what I've noticed is that the CD plays fine for 4-5 rounds on any CD player and then after the 5 rounds, the CDR wouldn't play tracks above 10 or has trouble reading the CDR or it would play with static. Could this be because of the two different burned spots that I've noticed are identical with 4-5 CDR's. I noticed that with Nero, it seems to decompress the MP3's during the burning process but with EAC when I tried the decompress option, the decompression seems to take a lot longer per file. Also, for EAC, is it better to use Lame or would it be better to use Radium for decompressing the MP3 back to WAV. Also, what's the correct way to burn MP3's to a AudioCD with EAC? Thanks.
 
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Luuve

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Many people dislike EZCD because it has installing, upgrading problem which can cause problem to the system, and causing problem to other CDR programs. And it doesn't offer anything special besides easy for newbie to understand.

Nero isn't the best CDR program but it's one of the best, or you can call THE BEST CHOICE because it can do most of the thing regular Internet users (binary downloaders) need. And if you have to buy all the tools for different jobs then Nero is a big $$$ saver. Example of what Nero can do

It can burn standard .ISO, BIN/CUE (popular CD Image format), and .NRG, all basic standard features like Audio, VCD, SVCD, CD COPY, Data (I wouldn't recomment to use Nero for Data with Filenames have SPACE) etc. then some extra features like turning STILL IMAGES to VCD/SVCD to watch on TV using standalone DVD player, and later version can copy/burn DVD stuff too (I don't have DVD burner to know much about this but see the options).

And about the EZCD, there are so many CDR programs can do just about anything EZCD can, and you don't have to worry about they messing up your system, Registry, causing problem to other CDR programs etc.. so EZCD has no reason to stay!!!
 
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ubamous3

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i noticed that nero and nti cd maker pro both have the option to verify data; so at the end of the session, if it says the recording was successful, we should feel reassured that the data was recorded error free? or what kind of data is it verifying?

the reason i ask is i have always used ezcd until recently, and i found out that a lot of the divx that i burned(as data) are not viewable, so i now have to go back and test scan all of them ; geez.
 
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