Confused about all the list items

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michelle_tg

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I'm accustomed to DVDShrink for re-authoring. It organizes the data in a way that I understand.

With DVDStripper I see a lot of items. I can view the items but how do I figure out which items belong together?
 
MackemX

MackemX

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michelle_tg said:
I'm accustomed to DVDShrink for re-authoring. It organizes the data in a way that I understand.

With DVDStripper I see a lot of items. I can view the items but how do I figure out which items belong together?
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Hi Michelle, welcome to the forum :)

you don't really need to know what belongs to what regarding items

you just go through the list clicking KEEP/REMOVE and if you select Autoplay this will take no time at all

if you reach the start of the movie you can double click further down the list until you find the end of the movie to save going through all the movie items

try clicking TOOLS and selecting MiniNav and use the always on top selection and this will make it even easier to browse through the items

you will soon see how easy it is to remove the content you don't want as it's a little strange at first but you soon master it after a few goes

cheers :)
 
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michelle_tg

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Hi,

I think of the material on a DVD in terms of a tree diagram. In order to prune the tree I have to have a visual picture of the branches, etc. Let's say there's a main menu with five links. Four of the links lead to submenus. I want to keep one of the submenus and the related material and get rid of the other submenus and related material.

I don't see how I can do that with DVDStripper unless I'm very familiar with the material on that DVD. It seems like I need to go through all the menu items and related material on a DVD player and take notes or draw a diagram to get that picture.
 
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circuit

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I tend to think a bit the same.
Say if it would be possible to have some info and even like a tree sort of organizer.

Some movies have bits of the movie and extras that look like they are part of the movie but you can't tell.

I assume that some DVD's will have bits all over the place (not sure), but for ease of use it would seem great.


michelle_tg said:
I'm accustomed to DVDShrink for re-authoring. It organizes the data in a way that I understand.

With DVDStripper I see a lot of items. I can view the items but how do I figure out which items belong together?
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MackemX

MackemX

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I agree it is a bit confusing for some but hopefully the more you use it the easier it will become and so DVD's take minutes to strip

If you notice there is a VTS list on the right on the Item size. This is the VTS number and will help distinguish which menu's item go with which Movie items

we are looking into having a better layout as most will be used to seeing layouts such as DVDShrink etc

at the moment as it's a first release our main concern is that all users have a fully working copy and when we are sure there are no major issues then development can progress

cheers
 
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Bear263

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While I think that stripping down at the cell id level is better, I really think it should go by title instead. Atleast for the user inerface. It can still strip by cell id behind the scenes.

If as an example, you have a main movie that has 30 cell id's. The movie uses 25 and the last 5 is a trailer that has been stuck into the main movie vobs. Which one can't tell without going through the ifo's first with ifoedit. When you look at it in dvdstripper, you must go through all 30 to find which are the trailer cell id's.

But...if it went by titles, you would just remove the title and your done. Dvdstripper would then in the background, remove only the cell id's that are applicable.

I think that if this was implimented, it would be one hell of a tool.

Just a thought.

Bear
 
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Bear263

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MackemX said:
If you notice there is a VTS list on the right on the Item size. This is the VTS number and will help distinguish which menu's item go with which Movie items


cheers
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This is great but you really don't know that part of say vts 2, which is the movie cause of the length of id's, is a trailer by looking at it. You staill have to go through all the id's.

Bear
 
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michelle_tg

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On my test disc (which I picked at random) all the significant menus are in the same VTS. But some of those menus have links to material that is not in the VTS. Isn't it possible for a menu to have links that point to different VTS's. I guess I need to learn more about DVD structures to make sense of all this.
 
MackemX

MackemX

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michelle_tg said:
On my test disc (which I picked at random) all the significant menus are in the same VTS. But some of those menus have links to material that is not in the VTS. Isn't it possible for a menu to have links that point to different VTS's. I guess I need to learn more about DVD structures to make sense of all this.
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yes they can link to other VTS's, so maybe using the VTS numbers may not help
 
MackemX

MackemX

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@bear

you don't have to go through all 30 items. When you come across items that are obviously the start of the movie, double click an item around 10 item further down the list as most movies have more than 10 chapters. If you are nowhere near the end then just jump 10 again and so on

you will soon find the end in no time at all :)
 
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DvdHeader

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@Bear263

MackemX will surely correct me if I'm wrong but I tested 7 movies this past weekend and never have I had to check all the items related to the main movie.

Since the main movie is in the same VTS, then once you identified the first item pertaining to the start of the movie you just go directly to the last item of that VTS and check if this is the end credit of the movie.

For example if the main movie starts at ITEM 15 of VTS 02 than just go to the last item of VTS 02, let's say ITEM 45 than double click that item to watch thru your Windows Media player. It usually is the end credit. If it isn't than you just go up one item at the time until you identified the end of the movie you want to keep.

Afterward you can check for the other items in the other VTS which would be trailers and so forth.

Also one thing I always do is to open the VIDEO_TS folder on my DVD to identify the largest title set where the movie is stored in. This help me identify at a glance which VTS id contains the main movie.

Hoping this can help you ;)
 
O'Boingo

O'Boingo

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MackemX,
I think this is the reason a lot of people like myself are a bit hesitant of this program. You're a trusted guy and have been around for awhile, I have no concerns over that. :) I also am sure your program functions as specified. But what if this program is complicated and/or just doesn't fit my style of learning. lol
I know you don't have a demo, but quite honestly, I don't like the fact that I'm using my credit card to purchase this and then getting the money back if I don't like it is the best way to go. I've been around lurking for a while in the other forum, watching your excitement for this program grow, so I am curious. I could also use a program such as this if it "fits my style", (ie: simplistic for an old fart like myself).

I guess what I'm asking is eventually will you be able to get us some sort of demo? I know you have a lot on your plate right now, but please give it some consideration.

Thanks, and sorry michelle_tg for hijacking your thread. I just felt that it was a perfect situation of what could happen to me. ;) MackemX- please feel free to PM me or start a new thread if you don't want to turn this into a new topic.

-O'Boingo
 
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Bear263

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DvdHeader said:
@Bear263

Also one thing I always do is to open the VIDEO_TS folder on my DVD to identify the largest title set where the movie is stored in. This help me identify at a glance which VTS id contains the main movie.

Hoping this can help you ;)
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This is the point I'm trying to make. What good is this program if you have to analyze (meaning finding what vts's are what) the dvd prior to using dvdstripper? You might as well just use infoedit. If it is marketed for the "newbies" (which I am not) the more simple the program is, the easier for them to use.

If however, it went by titles, then it doesn't matter what vts's are what. You simply click on a title and choose to keep or remove.

Title 1 = Movie ----- Keep
Title 2 = Coming to DVD intro ----- Remove

Simple.........

No need to look at the dvd structure prior.

Don't get me wrong, I understand how the program works. This I am not trying to mean. I'm just trying to make it easier to use for the not so incline.

So, I have a suggestion to be implemented when possible. Have two user modes, simple and advance. Simple show titles, advance shows cell id's. This will benefit both type of users.

Bear
 
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