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If your "old" mobo supports 8X AGP and USB 1.1(but 2 preferred 
),there's no need to buy another one yet......just buy another videocard and check if your powersupply has enough power to deliver....
The AGP version of the 6600GT should be found for +/- 270-280 $ AUS.....
),there's no need to buy another one yet......just buy another videocard and check if your powersupply has enough power to deliver....The AGP version of the 6600GT should be found for +/- 270-280 $ AUS.....
one thing to check before laying out ANY money on a load of upgrades is ... for the same amount you are going to spend ... is it possible to buy a whole new system with everything in it minus the monitor ..that you need without the hassle of rebuilding totally !?
something worth looking into
something worth looking into
Nizmo said:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/geforce-6600gtagp/index.x?pg=17
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2277&p=3
This is for the Radeon 9800 PRO........
Just a question....what's wrong with keeping your motherboard?
Seems that you're really eager to replace it...
Can you post the make and model?
A 2.0GHz Intel CPU with a decent graphics card, should game adequately - with a TNT2, only games of about 5 years ago or more would be usable.
In AGP, the 9800 (nothing, PRO or XT) should be a decent card, without spending an insane amount (unless you are commited to keeping the AGP card in your next upgrade, by which time AGP could be on the wane) - at the moment, you can get motherboards with either, though it seems, not BOTH (there may be a few).
Another "hedge your bets" option, is the the few AMD motherboards that can take the cheaper 754 OR the 939 - only to be recommended if you have thoughs of going for a cheaper 754 CPU now, with the option to upgrade, as the ones reviewed normally have a weaker chipset than a "performance" 939.
But unless there is something else wrong, all you really need is a decent AGP card in your current system - that kind of machine should never be carrying a TNT2 - even a Geforce 2MX is more powerful - and that is now the kind of thing you find on computer fair junk tables - most importantly, the TNT2 does not have any hardware T&L capability, and that is a basic requirement for any games of the past few years - and that is now left behind by the directX 8 and 9 capabilities - and you can get a once-great card like a Radeon 8500 or Geforce 4 Ti4200 (both good DX8 hardware) pretty cheap - a bit dated now, bot still a couple of orders of magnitude better than a prehistoric TNT2
In AGP, the 9800 (nothing, PRO or XT) should be a decent card, without spending an insane amount (unless you are commited to keeping the AGP card in your next upgrade, by which time AGP could be on the wane) - at the moment, you can get motherboards with either, though it seems, not BOTH (there may be a few).
Another "hedge your bets" option, is the the few AMD motherboards that can take the cheaper 754 OR the 939 - only to be recommended if you have thoughs of going for a cheaper 754 CPU now, with the option to upgrade, as the ones reviewed normally have a weaker chipset than a "performance" 939.
But unless there is something else wrong, all you really need is a decent AGP card in your current system - that kind of machine should never be carrying a TNT2 - even a Geforce 2MX is more powerful - and that is now the kind of thing you find on computer fair junk tables - most importantly, the TNT2 does not have any hardware T&L capability, and that is a basic requirement for any games of the past few years - and that is now left behind by the directX 8 and 9 capabilities - and you can get a once-great card like a Radeon 8500 or Geforce 4 Ti4200 (both good DX8 hardware) pretty cheap - a bit dated now, bot still a couple of orders of magnitude better than a prehistoric TNT2
one last question before i buy.
Does AMD cpu's have any bad problems like overheating easy? Because my comptuer gets used by me my brother and sister so its usually on for a while. I was at a friends house and he had an asus-x motherboard and amd2600 he just bought it about 4 days ago and we turned it on and it came up with an overheated message and crashed and reset and everytime it got to the windows xp loading thing it reset again. That happened about 20 times before he turned it off. Would that be the motherboard or cpu?
Does AMD cpu's have any bad problems like overheating easy? Because my comptuer gets used by me my brother and sister so its usually on for a while. I was at a friends house and he had an asus-x motherboard and amd2600 he just bought it about 4 days ago and we turned it on and it came up with an overheated message and crashed and reset and everytime it got to the windows xp loading thing it reset again. That happened about 20 times before he turned it off. Would that be the motherboard or cpu?
YES they do get very hot .... unfortunately .... but with a good quality heat sink and fan they run just fine
I run my 2.2amd 24 hrs a day 7 days a week ...but this is my heat pipe and fan lol
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costs about £21 here in the uk but works great no over heat problems at all
.... but with a good quality heat sink and fan they run just fine I run my 2.2amd 24 hrs a day 7 days a week ...but this is my heat pipe and fan lol
see image
costs about £21 here in the uk but works great no over heat problems at all
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Nizmo said:
Not the latest versions......they tend to overheat more than the latest Athlons...
BTW,my 3200 XP runs @ 47° C normal load and max 53° heavy load(playing games,video encoding.)
Your friend's computer CPU isn't correctly installed.......probably a problem with the fitting of the heatsink,a broken heatsink fan,or the heatsink paste not correctly applied...seen that a dozen of times on computers ......
get a better heat sink and fan than what you have currently a more heavy duty one
or an over clockers type heat sink and fan which mine is
it has a HEAT PIPE down the centre thats filled with HEAT dispersal OIL to reduce the heat more
the fan on the back blows air across the multiple fins running its full height
A lot of us here use various types of heavy duty sinks and fans as a lot of us do a lot of HEAVY gameplay or a lot of intense video conversions so the processor gets very hot when under strain
maby you just need to find one to suit your needs
why go backwards and drop processor speed ?!
or an over clockers type heat sink and fan which mine is
it has a HEAT PIPE down the centre thats filled with HEAT dispersal OIL to reduce the heat more
the fan on the back blows air across the multiple fins running its full height
A lot of us here use various types of heavy duty sinks and fans as a lot of us do a lot of HEAVY gameplay or a lot of intense video conversions so the processor gets very hot when under strain
maby you just need to find one to suit your needs
why go backwards and drop processor speed ?!
Nizmo said:
No,mine is not overclocked......and as I said in my previous post;if you get temps that high,there's something wrong with your hardware installation...
You can't swap different architecture processors on the same mobo......no Intel will fit on an AMD mobo and vice-versa...
There are several software tools for temperature monitoring......speedfan,motherboard monitor to name a few....
several motherboard manufacturers have their own,for example,Asus has it's AsusProbe...
@ Vipey,
Nice heatsink,bro!!!!
I went for this one:
