I have to have both my HDD's on the primary since they are both bootable. This setup for me has worked fine. I don't do CD-CD copies especially since Nero won't let you without copying to the HD first.
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Im sure U can copy MP3 To CDA on the fly with Nero but I havent used it for that for a long time.
Im sure U can copy MP3 To CDA on the fly with Nero but I havent used it for that for a long time.
videobruce said:
This is only necessary when you're running a windows 98 or ME on your seperate harddisks,in which case you have to fool your os'ses anyway,because they both need a C: to run
Win XP and Win 2000 don't need a bootable hd on the primary ide.....
Anyway,did you try another ide cable too?Don't forget that you get best results with a 40 pins cable for cdrom or dcr devices...
I tried another IDE cable and even went so far as to run 3 benchmark tests on both cables and found the round cable slightly better than the flat cable (both 80 wire)!
If I put the other HDD on the secondary channel I would have to enter the bios everytime to change drives correct?
You are saying that a 40 wire is better than a 80 wire IDE cable for CD's???? That's news.
If I put the other HDD on the secondary channel I would have to enter the bios everytime to change drives correct?
You are saying that a 40 wire is better than a 80 wire IDE cable for CD's???? That's news.
No,your drive will be correctly recognisedvideobruce said:
80 wire cables can confuse your cdrom/cdr devices......40 wire is intended for ATA 33 devices = older harddisks and most cdr drives run in that mode...
How would that affect the CD if the data is slow off the HD?
I disabled DMA in the bios, but DM still shows the HDD's in Ultra DMA Mode!
I disabled DMA in the bios, but DM still shows the HDD's in Ultra DMA Mode!
You can boot a harddisk fairly easily on the secondary IDE channel.videobruce said:
The Poacher's suggestion makes sense, but it won't solve your problem which is certainly buggy or not properly installed busmaster drivers. Else you should see DMA status changing after disabling DMA in bios.
My mistake. There are 5 different entries for DMA status. IDE Primary/Secondary, Master/Slave UDMA and IDE Transfer Mode. I only changed the transfer mode.
When I changed the IDE Primary Master/Slave to disable Device Manager showed DMA instead of Ultra DMA!
I did some benchmark tests both ways and the DMS disabled showed a 50% DECREASE in speed, so I assume the possible problem of DMA not showing being disabled in Device Manager isn't here.
I also changed the CD IDE cable and benchmarked it both ways and NO difference!! So much for 40 vs 80 wire.
When I changed the IDE Primary Master/Slave to disable Device Manager showed DMA instead of Ultra DMA!
I did some benchmark tests both ways and the DMS disabled showed a 50% DECREASE in speed, so I assume the possible problem of DMA not showing being disabled in Device Manager isn't here.
I also changed the CD IDE cable and benchmarked it both ways and NO difference!! So much for 40 vs 80 wire.
It's understood that latest is not always the best, but have you tried the last nforce drivers package? (2.03).
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=nforce_udp_win2k_2.03
"Almost" all its parts are WHQL certified.
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=nforce_udp_win2k_2.03
"Almost" all its parts are WHQL certified.
Guess What?
Out of all the things/tests I did, the one thing I didn't do was to reseat the IDE CD cable connector on the MB.
An audio CD in three minutes!
When I swapped the burners around, the only connectors that got disturbed were the device side. The connector on the MB was left untouched. When I install any connector I ALWAYS double and triple check if it is a new install to see if it is seated by repushing down on the connector from both ends. I have found that many times it is the connection to the ribbon cable/wires itself that is the problem since it is a pin that pierces the insulation to make the connection. Since the cable is pulled when you remove the connector (you usually can't help it no matter how hard you try) that what gets disturbed.
I could see NO difference between 40 and 80 wire cables though as others have stated. The cables I'm using are the new 'round' type, a first time for me.
I'm just surprised that more errors didn't surface whit just playing back audio CD's in the CD Rom since it was a common connector and all the benchmark tests didn't turn something up either!
Out of all the things/tests I did, the one thing I didn't do was to reseat the IDE CD cable connector on the MB.
An audio CD in three minutes!
When I swapped the burners around, the only connectors that got disturbed were the device side. The connector on the MB was left untouched. When I install any connector I ALWAYS double and triple check if it is a new install to see if it is seated by repushing down on the connector from both ends. I have found that many times it is the connection to the ribbon cable/wires itself that is the problem since it is a pin that pierces the insulation to make the connection. Since the cable is pulled when you remove the connector (you usually can't help it no matter how hard you try) that what gets disturbed.
I could see NO difference between 40 and 80 wire cables though as others have stated. The cables I'm using are the new 'round' type, a first time for me.
I'm just surprised that more errors didn't surface whit just playing back audio CD's in the CD Rom since it was a common connector and all the benchmark tests didn't turn something up either!
I found the problem.........thanks anyway.jorel said:
Where did you get this? I asked about this issue in other forums and NO ONE had heard of this.roadworker said:
The question was for Roadworker!
Huh????????
Search on tech forums and you'll find the ATA specifications.......videobruce said:
I fixed a similar burner problem on a friend's old p2 400mhz by replacing the 80 pins cable with a 40 pins.......and his connectors were ok,checked them b4 switching cables....
Now just something to think about
:I recently bought a 52X LiteOn burner
I recently bought a Sony DVD burner:
there was still NO 80 pins cable included!Both had the "old" 40 pins cable in their package......when checking store prices,price difference for the cables is almost 0,so that can't b the reason why there's no 80 pins cable in the package....
PS: b nice to people that try to help you....
ATAPI devices do NOT benefit from crosstalk tweaking- and as the ATAPI command set is significantly more complex than the IDE one errors may arise when additional+ unnecessary switches can be used (as is the case with the 80-pinners, which aren't really 80-pinners).
And I agree that some more urbanite would not hurt much.
And I agree that some more urbanite would not hurt much.
When wasn't I? It's just that so far only you have claimed this was a issue and no one else has ever heard of this. Anything is possible, all I was asking where/what did you base your comment on?
As far as the ATA specs, I know the CD bus only needs a 40 wire cable, but it shouldn't hurt having a 80 wire cable there instead.
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