Audio burning

bode

bode

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This has to be the most boring question ever, but I'm fed up reading conflicting advice.

When copying audio, what speed should cdrs be read and written?

Read slowly and written fast...write no faster than X4 speed??

Is processor speed the most important consideration when choosing a suitable burning speed?

thanks
bode :)

Pen III 733
512MB SDRAM
Win 98se
Toshiba DVD 1212
HP 9100
 
zver

zver

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Just go as fast as you can..........And of course if you dont have a burnproof--go by speed which processor will support--unless you like coasters!!!!!!!!i did burn at 40 and at 1 speed--never saw a difference---Well lets see what others would say--who knows--audio is a magic area--everything could happen!!
 
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scarecrow

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Use the maximum speed at which your burner STILL works in full CAV mode. Operaating your burner at zoneCLV or P-CAV modes for audio is definitely NOT recommended.
 
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LTR12101B

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Modern media (unless you buy "audio", which as well as being coded to work with home audio recorders, MUST be satisfactory at 1x "realtime recording") is not necessarily good at lower speeds.

For modern drives, both drive and media are most likely tuned for the range from the LOWEST CAV/P-CAV/Zone speed (16-18x) up to the highest speed (oh yeah! - that's where drive and media performance usually tails off)

Some modern drives won't do any less than 8x!

Overrall, it's a balancing act, and you need to combine error tests (eg. CDR Doctor on Liteon drives), with playability tests on audio.

You may find that a given media type, at least on a particular writer, will NEVER give good playability, even if the error tests say it's damn near perfect.

It may be simplistic to say it this way, but the cure for playability issues is usually a change of dye type (colour) - it's not directly related, but BLUE and CLEAR(ish) MUST be two different furmulations, and if one doesn't work well, the other might.

It's possible that the target playing equipment might not like ANY CD-R media!
 
Wedge

Wedge

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LTR12101B said:
It's possible that the target playing equipment might not like ANY CD-R media! [/B]
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I totally agree with that. Even though most cd players *should* play a cd you have created, I simply think some do not want to take CD-Rs -- modern players being your best bet for compatibility.

My favorite tip on copying audio: make a hard drive image rather than copying on the fly. I know some recorder/media/player combos have no problem with on-the-fly, but it seems to be a more secure method if you extract the image to your hard drive first. Make an image and burn somewhere between 8x - 16x (just my opinion).

If you do copy on-the-fly, just be sure to not write faster than your reader reads if you don't have buffer under run protection (I think that's correct; somebody else might want to confirm this?).
 
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MiXiT-G

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I mainly burn my recorded music so it never on the fly but i still encounter problems, i'll burn two discs with the same setting and one will work but not the other(only occasionally mainly i have probs with blue media)

I use nero and a 40x lite-on.

Are there any settings i need to check??
 
The-poacher

The-poacher

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Re your burning problems a few more details may help <<>> I myself for instance would NEVER use Nero to burn audio

EAC Or Feurio are better by far (but not what I use) I use Hotburn to burn MP3 to Audio CDR on the fly @ 48x (if required I usually burn @ 32x)

Drive setup is also a feature despite what anyone may tell U I know from experience that U should have a setup something like this

Primary IDE <> Master - Hard Disk (on which U store your Audio)
Slave - Your CDROM or DVDROM (or a burner U use as a ROM)

Secondary IDE <> Master - Hard Disk or Burner
Slave (if U have Hard disk as Master) - Burner

SCSI is also an Option My SCSI Plextor Ultra Plex 40x CDROM & Plextor 12/10/32S are brilliant for Audio.
 
Duracell

Duracell

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Wedge said:
If you do copy on-the-fly, just be sure to not write faster than your reader reads if you don't have buffer under run protection (I think that's correct; somebody else might want to confirm this?).
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==> Wedge

if the buffer underun protection has to act, your written CD-R isn't "Red Book" compatible anymore; so i have disabled buffer underun protection and still never got an underun; but i don't copy AudioCDs (neither OnTheFly), i always rip, remaster and burn them as new AudioCD;


MiXiT-G said:
I use nero and a 40x lite-on.
Are there any settings i need to check??
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==> MiXiT-G

try to burn with 4x or 8x speed
and use media from Mitsui or Taiyo Yuden; take a look at the media section in our forum and you will find some advices about CD-R fabricators;


Greetings from
Duracell
 
VIPER_1069

VIPER_1069

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I find that its more often than not the stereo or whatever the disk is used in after burning more the problem of not being able to read the media than the actual burning speed !?

Most older equipment say about 2-3 yrs old tends to be the source of most if not all none playback of audio disks :mad: reason for this are mainly sub quality lazer play back heads that are installed at the factory to cut costs!!! :mad: :(


There is a home brew cure for this ONLY IF you are confident with electronics and things like this it is to remove the lazer head unit and adjust the lazer strength pot on the lazer unit itself or on the ribbon cable ...but just a tiny amount not even a quarter turn to the right (too much and you will fry your disks with the beam to intense!!) ......

(I dont recommend this if you are not technically adept!!...... be warned this will void any warrenty with new equipment or possibly damage the unit !! )

Adjusting this lazer increases the beam strength and permits most if not all media to be read in the unit :)

But.... be warned there is a 99% chance if you do NOT KNOW what you are doing then you wil fritz the equipment you have been warned !!!!!!

Or you could take it to a specialist and have them re-tune the lazer for you but at their expense or even get them to replace the lazer unit :)

The final alternative here is ... buy new equipment :( not the cheapest of options but at least you get a sparkly new stereo etc :D
 
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MiXiT-G

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Thanks...my hard drive with the audio is on the primary IDE and my burner is on the secondary is this ok? or should i have my HD and burner on the same IDE channel?

Which is better EAC or feurio(what do you use)
 
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scarecrow

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EAC is a better ripper, and Feurio! is a better burner. So the answer is subjective.
Personally I use only EAC for ripping/encoding and 1:1 copying and only Burnatonce for burning. When I want to do complex audio masterings, I use Wavelab 4 (very powerful, but very expensive too).
Of course you may stick with another set of programs.
 
zver

zver

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Wavelab is da thing for audio..best one with samplitude......Every version is ok........But version 4(newest)is amazing(atleast)--can do evrything!!!!!!!!!!And i mean everything!!!!Why dont you try it--you1ll ditch version3--for sure!!!
 
zver

zver

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Wavelab supports atapi and scsi--both........Your burner is older or newer--if its older it has to be supported----if its newer get a patch for it--so your burner will be supported--or get a version4 and forgot all those trouble and enjoy iit!!
 
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