zonealarm 3.1.395 dialing out
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Me too
Hi !
I habe the same too since 3.1.395
Any solution yet ?
Hi !
I habe the same too since 3.1.395
Any solution yet ?
dx
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I agree...another ex ZoneAlarm user that is a little miffed that Zone Labs used me as a guinea pig to develop their product and then started charging for it. Yes, there is still a free version...but it is heavilly disabled and fairly weak with protection...plus it naggs you into getting the paid versions all the time. The Plus and the Pro versions are better...but $40 and $50 USD respectively. ZoneLabs knows about all the cracking and will keep making a dial home feature that you will keep needing to crack to keep it working.malbolgia said:
I gave up and went with Kerio. Its a great and effective Personal Firewall that is light on the system resources and free (just like Zone Alarm USED to be).
LaZorMan
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The patch works for ZoneAlarm Plus as well. Strange is that I have tried both Pro and Plus for some time and never noticed any home-calls. ZA have stayed regged.
dxkim I understand you are miffed but this is a quite common behavior..freeware turn shareware after a while. Sygate was free for personal use as well in the beginning. Then a Pro version was released with more features. There are a lot of antivir apps using the same policy. They have a version free for personal use together with a more advanced Pro. Especially security apps are hard to develop if you don´t get paid. You must be up to date with all new treats and for that you need to be up to date.
Also I don´t understand how Kerio can be claimed as free. On their site the price for a single user license is $39.
_http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_price.html
LaZorMan
dxkim I understand you are miffed but this is a quite common behavior..freeware turn shareware after a while. Sygate was free for personal use as well in the beginning. Then a Pro version was released with more features. There are a lot of antivir apps using the same policy. They have a version free for personal use together with a more advanced Pro. Especially security apps are hard to develop if you don´t get paid. You must be up to date with all new treats and for that you need to be up to date.
Also I don´t understand how Kerio can be claimed as free. On their site the price for a single user license is $39.
_http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_price.html
LaZorMan
Sygate
I used to be more than happy with ZA but then when I upgraded to v.3xx I hated the layout and it cause weird problems with XP.
I changed over to Sygate and very glad I did
....DreeM
I used to be more than happy with ZA but then when I upgraded to v.3xx I hated the layout and it cause weird problems with XP.
I changed over to Sygate and very glad I did
....DreeM
LaZorMan
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I can´t really see the reason to use a rule based firewall if you aren´t very initiated in how to create these rules. If you aren´t the result might be a system that look safe but in fact is wide open.
Even though I´m an experienced, no Pro for sure, I think it`s safer to use a
Firewall using Application-Based Intrusion Detection Systems.
I´ll have visible control over when a connection is to take place and have the opportunity to see what program, the remote address etc. and then if all is OK accept the connection.
I can´t see the benefits in using manually created rules, general or application specific except for in some rare cases. But both Sygate and Zonealarm support user defined rules if needed. If there aren´t any compatibility problems then witch one to use is a matter of taste in general.
Finally I know there are lots of Kerio lovers among board members and all of you of course recommend Kerio in favor of eg. ZoneAlarm or Sygate. But IMO you can´t compare these apps that easy. They are all firewalls but there are essential differences between a Rule Based Intrusion Detection System and an Application-Based Intrusion Detection System. This fact is is very important for a non experienced user and lots of folks reading these posts are newbies on this matter and trust the opinion of others and go for the same solution. A good solution but only if you have at least basic knowledge in ports and protocols otherwise it´s hard to configure Kerio and similar apps.
And in the end a result might be a system wide open.
Many various apps that need internet access also make it harder to create working rules. I know because I have tried Kerio, Tiny etc. more than once. To see if I my settings was right I used on-line security scanning and I had to add, change and remove more than once to get a working firewall. I´m no Pro for sure but I think of my self as experienced in general...but still It caused me quite some work to get it all right.
Here is a very good site if you like to test how well your firewall works.
http://scan.sygate.com/
LaZorMan
Even though I´m an experienced, no Pro for sure, I think it`s safer to use a
Firewall using Application-Based Intrusion Detection Systems.
I´ll have visible control over when a connection is to take place and have the opportunity to see what program, the remote address etc. and then if all is OK accept the connection.
I can´t see the benefits in using manually created rules, general or application specific except for in some rare cases. But both Sygate and Zonealarm support user defined rules if needed. If there aren´t any compatibility problems then witch one to use is a matter of taste in general.
Finally I know there are lots of Kerio lovers among board members and all of you of course recommend Kerio in favor of eg. ZoneAlarm or Sygate. But IMO you can´t compare these apps that easy. They are all firewalls but there are essential differences between a Rule Based Intrusion Detection System and an Application-Based Intrusion Detection System. This fact is is very important for a non experienced user and lots of folks reading these posts are newbies on this matter and trust the opinion of others and go for the same solution. A good solution but only if you have at least basic knowledge in ports and protocols otherwise it´s hard to configure Kerio and similar apps.
And in the end a result might be a system wide open.
Many various apps that need internet access also make it harder to create working rules. I know because I have tried Kerio, Tiny etc. more than once. To see if I my settings was right I used on-line security scanning and I had to add, change and remove more than once to get a working firewall. I´m no Pro for sure but I think of my self as experienced in general...but still It caused me quite some work to get it all right.
Here is a very good site if you like to test how well your firewall works.
http://scan.sygate.com/
LaZorMan
LaZorMan
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I can´t see for what purpose ZA make these calls if the key isn´t checked. Even if the reason is to validate the registration this should be done once during install or when a key is added.
To make it even more strange I talked to a guy on another forum and he claim his freeware version make the same calls and to the same location. To me it´s hard to find an acceptable reason for a freeware to make calls like this.
As I said I can´t confirm this info because I don´t use ZA Freeware but if it´s true then ZA has turned into a spy-ware for some reason.
Out of sheer curiosity I have addressed ZoneLabs support requesting an explanation. If ZA Free doesn´t make connections as claimed I take it for granted that a denial is the truth.
I also hope for an explanation of why Pro and Plus continue their calls after the registration is done and why these calls are concealed from the user.
But as always there is no guarantee for an answer.
LaZorMan
To make it even more strange I talked to a guy on another forum and he claim his freeware version make the same calls and to the same location. To me it´s hard to find an acceptable reason for a freeware to make calls like this.
As I said I can´t confirm this info because I don´t use ZA Freeware but if it´s true then ZA has turned into a spy-ware for some reason.
Out of sheer curiosity I have addressed ZoneLabs support requesting an explanation. If ZA Free doesn´t make connections as claimed I take it for granted that a denial is the truth.
I also hope for an explanation of why Pro and Plus continue their calls after the registration is done and why these calls are concealed from the user.
But as always there is no guarantee for an answer.
LaZorMan
woody
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Lazorman...I too have continued to use ZA without problems.Setting rules confuses me.I'm currently using the freeware version that is easy to configure.I like being prompted so I can decide what is allowed.ZA shows stealth mode for every test I've made.
I have tried Kerio and Sygate,but was never sure if I configured them properly.
I have tried Kerio and Sygate,but was never sure if I configured them properly.
LaZorMan
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Hi my friend. What you mention is auto update and can be disabled in Pro and Plus. Don´t know if you have this option in the free ZA. However ZA Pro and Plus both call home after a system boot addressing this IP: _lockup.zonelabs.com.
Some folks have noticed the same call from the ZA Freeware.
The strange thing is that no one seems to know why calls are made.
The patch posted here change the link ZA use, in fact a " " link.
The file to be patched is located in C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs
or
C:\WINDOWS\system\ZoneLabs
the name is: vsruledb.dll
If you have this file then try the patch.
I use Plus with default settings in general. I don´t know how to use your version...never used it..but I don´t think Plus and Pro are much more complicated to use.
I use Plus because it doesn´t include ad-blocker and cookie control. If I need a firewall then this is what I look for.
And the plus version is just that exept for the e-mail protection. Not a basic firewall feature but very useful.
IMO it´s wort an upgrade.
LaZorMan
Some folks have noticed the same call from the ZA Freeware.
The strange thing is that no one seems to know why calls are made.
The patch posted here change the link ZA use, in fact a " " link.
The file to be patched is located in C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs
or
C:\WINDOWS\system\ZoneLabs
the name is: vsruledb.dll
If you have this file then try the patch.
I use Plus with default settings in general. I don´t know how to use your version...never used it..but I don´t think Plus and Pro are much more complicated to use.
I use Plus because it doesn´t include ad-blocker and cookie control. If I need a firewall then this is what I look for.
And the plus version is just that exept for the e-mail protection. Not a basic firewall feature but very useful.
IMO it´s wort an upgrade.
LaZorMan
i'm another ZA Pro user...i have tried most firewalls including kerio and sygate and i prefer the app based intrusion system of Zonealarm...i argee LaZorMan, rules based intrusion detection can be a pain to set up and your never 100% certain that you've covered everything, definately not for the inexperienced pc user...
woody
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Yep,the freeware version is a stripped down version of the Plus and Pro.
It does just the basic firewall options.I was using the Pro version,but never updated.It worked fine.I never tried the newer versions that were calling home.
I'm satisfied with the basic freeware version..for now.
Vey informative thread BTW.
It does just the basic firewall options.I was using the Pro version,but never updated.It worked fine.I never tried the newer versions that were calling home.
I'm satisfied with the basic freeware version..for now.
Vey informative thread BTW.