win xp / win 98
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very tricky, as win98 likes to be the first OS system installed.
I have done it by putting my win98 on a second HDD, but end result is (in truth) XP does not like being with win98.
I've even done it on the same HDD installing win98 first & then winXP on different partition (also with dual-boot) but also has some funny bugs doing it that way.
I suggest you do a search (using our search function) & look it up, as myself & pokopiko & a few others gave methods on how to do it & some warnings.
(do search on: dual boot)
one result will yield you this:
http://forum.cdrsoft.cc/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3922&highlight=dual+boot
I have done it by putting my win98 on a second HDD, but end result is (in truth) XP does not like being with win98.
I've even done it on the same HDD installing win98 first & then winXP on different partition (also with dual-boot) but also has some funny bugs doing it that way.
I suggest you do a search (using our search function) & look it up, as myself & pokopiko & a few others gave methods on how to do it & some warnings.
(do search on: dual boot)
one result will yield you this:
http://forum.cdrsoft.cc/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3922&highlight=dual+boot
most straigtforward is to install win98 first, then winxp. you will get a boot up screen to select which Os. no need for extra software.
to do it the other way, you'll need bootmagic and/or partition magic or use system comander as pokopiko said.
my setup has a small partition hidden(win98) that i use just if theres an emergency. while in win98, the winxp partition cant be seen and vice versa.
to do it the other way, you'll need bootmagic and/or partition magic or use system comander as pokopiko said.
my setup has a small partition hidden(win98) that i use just if theres an emergency. while in win98, the winxp partition cant be seen and vice versa.
spider
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Ok i think ill give it a miss , didnt realise it was that tricky.
My xp works fine its just that i heard win98 is better for gaming.
I would have preffered to install win98 AFTER xp but if it doesnt work very well i will leave it .
Also i dont want to uninstall my xp because it will be a lot of hassle for me to reinstall all my stuff (if you know what i mean)
Anyway thanks for the feedback guys
spider
Ok i think ill give it a miss , didnt realise it was that tricky.
My xp works fine its just that i heard win98 is better for gaming.
I would have preffered to install win98 AFTER xp but if it doesnt work very well i will leave it .
Also i dont want to uninstall my xp because it will be a lot of hassle for me to reinstall all my stuff (if you know what i mean)
Anyway thanks for the feedback guys
spider
I have done this many times with 2k and ME and don't see why it wouldn't work with XP and 98. I had 2k installed from scratch and wanted to install ME. Just used the startup diskette and Installed ME. Off course my 2k dissapeared, but I just reinstalled it from within ME. When it asked me to repair or reinstall i Choosed repair and everything was done, Dobble boot without any problems. Just as remark, I always installed it on different partitions as follow: C: Windows 2k and D: ME.
If you want to risk it, give it a try.
Cheers,
El_Matador
If you want to risk it, give it a try.
Cheers,
El_Matador
That's another posibility, but you have to know what you are doing with the boot.ini file. It is simple, but wrong things can happen.
Cheers,
El_Matador
Cheers,
El_Matador
yes but I posted how to do that change in the boot.ini file on the link I provided:
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOW
S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
This is how it typically looks. You can also do it like this:
Edit Boot.ini file on the Fat32 partition from:
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=5
Default=C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT
[Operating Systems]
C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows XP Professional Setup"
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
To:
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=15
Default=C:\
[Operating Systems]
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\windows="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional"
PS
but trust me, winXP doesn't like win98SE very much. I know win2K works fine with the dual boot setup, but winXP pro corp doesn't. At first seems ok, but after a bit you start to notice too high a process running in system resources. Also there will generally be 1 folder on one of the partitions that cannot be opened.
I think the end of the sectors from win98 to winXP aren't configured right or something.
Perhaps it is just my bad luck on 2 machines I have tested this with (a few different methods on each), so you never know.
PCs do have a mind of their own lol
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOW
S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
This is how it typically looks. You can also do it like this:
Edit Boot.ini file on the Fat32 partition from:
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=5
Default=C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT
[Operating Systems]
C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows XP Professional Setup"
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
To:
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=15
Default=C:\
[Operating Systems]
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\windows="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional"
PS
but trust me, winXP doesn't like win98SE very much. I know win2K works fine with the dual boot setup, but winXP pro corp doesn't. At first seems ok, but after a bit you start to notice too high a process running in system resources. Also there will generally be 1 folder on one of the partitions that cannot be opened.
I think the end of the sectors from win98 to winXP aren't configured right or something.
Perhaps it is just my bad luck on 2 machines I have tested this with (a few different methods on each), so you never know.
PCs do have a mind of their own lol
auras
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I say not "WinXP doesn't like Win98SE very much", but "WinXP doesn't like Win98SE at all". The Windows dual boot is not a good solution because the "funny bugs" which shadoe_phantom said from. Installing Win98SE to a physically separate hard-drive and using a third party boot manager like Ontrack's, you can choose at the startup which drive you want to boot from. But the Ontrack driver will create certain troubles, i. e. you will not be able to use Norton Disk Doctor or another disk utilities. However, if you want to use both WinXP/Win98SE without any trouble, the best solution - applied by me, but a bit uncomfortable, and absolute non-recomandable for newbies, is to have a completely separate hard drive with Win98SE, that normally is deactivated from the BIOS (i. e. first master HDD with WinXP & applications, first slave HDD with Win98SE & games, but declared in BIOS as "none"). With the BIOS option to boot from the first HDD, you will use normally the computer with WinXP for running applications and for Internet connection. If you want to play games, enter the BIOS setup at the system start, change the setting for the primary slave disk to "auto", and the boot option to "second HDD". Then play! Of course you will be able to connect to the Internet and play network games from Win98 too. Returning to the original BIOS settings, the system will boot again from the first HDD with WinXP. And WinXP will never learn about the presence of Win98SE on your system.
hey that's a nice workaround auras. I didn't really think of disabling through bios. I just used to unplug the IDE ribbon if I really needed to use something on win98SE instead (3DStudio Max 4.0).
Even though I have other PCs to use at home, just prefer using this one the most.
Even though I have other PCs to use at home, just prefer using this one the most.
ipdave
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Another way:
1. Use PartitionM#gic to create a new partition with a separate drive letter.
2. Use DriveIm@ge to move your XP partion to the 2nd partition.
3. Install 98 on the first (98 has to be on the 1st partion, no other "windows" directories).
4. Boot the XP CD and choose Repair.
5. You should be able to reboot and have the classic NT boot manager.
OR:
1. Install a second drive as MASTER, the existing XP drive as SLAVE.
2. Install 98 on First Drive (C
3. Boot XP CD and do the Quick Repair as before. (This modifies the Boot.ini and adds the ntloader.
1. Use PartitionM#gic to create a new partition with a separate drive letter.
2. Use DriveIm@ge to move your XP partion to the 2nd partition.
3. Install 98 on the first (98 has to be on the 1st partion, no other "windows" directories).
4. Boot the XP CD and choose Repair.
5. You should be able to reboot and have the classic NT boot manager.
OR:
1. Install a second drive as MASTER, the existing XP drive as SLAVE.
2. Install 98 on First Drive (C
3. Boot XP CD and do the Quick Repair as before. (This modifies the Boot.ini and adds the ntloader.
N.B. - Paid Service..what up? PayPal'd you some $$$ for support In Any Case.
Sorry if this is a redundant question...
I have the FCKGW rip of XP PRO...is there any other key that I can use that isn't interdicted on the SP1. I hear they Nuke Ya or lock you out with a code change. I tried other reg codes in the "wild" and they did not work on the installation.
I could really use some help on this...
Sorry if this is a redundant question...
I have the FCKGW rip of XP PRO...is there any other key that I can use that isn't interdicted on the SP1. I hear they Nuke Ya or lock you out with a code change. I tried other reg codes in the "wild" and they did not work on the installation.
I could really use some help on this...
Look at you other post.
Cheers,
El_Matador
Cheers,
El_Matador
ya
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auras
I have done the same thing in my system as you mentioned. WinXP on master and 98SE or slave same IDE and use bios to choose to boot from. I installed 98SE on slave first then XP on master later.
Wired thing, even though I set slave hdd to NONE, still XP can see this drive and I also can transfer files between both hdds. Do you think XP will create any problems becuz of presence of 98SE???
How can I check if XP 's installed some files on my 98SE system, or install something that say 98SE is exist?
To set slave hdd (98SE OS) to none in bios, This drive becomes PIO mode only, how can I slove this problem? And if XP sees this drive anyway should I just set it as normal (auto)??
Sorry for too many questions mate, It's just that you are an expert and I'm so newbie
I have done the same thing in my system as you mentioned. WinXP on master and 98SE or slave same IDE and use bios to choose to boot from. I installed 98SE on slave first then XP on master later.
Wired thing, even though I set slave hdd to NONE, still XP can see this drive and I also can transfer files between both hdds. Do you think XP will create any problems becuz of presence of 98SE???
How can I check if XP 's installed some files on my 98SE system, or install something that say 98SE is exist?
To set slave hdd (98SE OS) to none in bios, This drive becomes PIO mode only, how can I slove this problem? And if XP sees this drive anyway should I just set it as normal (auto)??
Sorry for too many questions mate, It's just that you are an expert and I'm so newbie
I do a lot of experimenting with my system (multi-OS's, changing video cards, various sound cards ect.) and with System Commander 7.04 Ive never had any conflicts between any of these OS's (dos 6.22, win3.11, win95, win98, winME, winNT sp4 or higher, win2k, and winXP). Earlier versions of system commander works with all but XP. There is a limit of 4 primary or 3 primary and 1 extended partition per HD
ipdave
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Over the years, one thing I've found to be constant in doing this:
Always Install the Oldest OS First, on the First Partition of the First Drive.
This has always worked (but you can always install Linux anytime).
I have installed Win98 and then 2000 (98 needs to be on the C: drive, 1st disk, 1st partition). Same with WinME and 2000. Same with 98/ME and XP. Remember, Install XP or 2000 on a DIFFERENT partition, and 9x ALWAYS on the 1st partition. Then life is beautiful and the OS kids play well together. DON'T try to install 9x on another partition and XP, since XP uses \windows now as well (it replaces 9x/ME - why use those old OS's anyway?). Right now I am booting XP, 2nd copy XP, 2000 SVR, and Linux. Don't have any reason to run 98 or ME.
Always Install the Oldest OS First, on the First Partition of the First Drive.
This has always worked (but you can always install Linux anytime).
I have installed Win98 and then 2000 (98 needs to be on the C: drive, 1st disk, 1st partition). Same with WinME and 2000. Same with 98/ME and XP. Remember, Install XP or 2000 on a DIFFERENT partition, and 9x ALWAYS on the 1st partition. Then life is beautiful and the OS kids play well together. DON'T try to install 9x on another partition and XP, since XP uses \windows now as well (it replaces 9x/ME - why use those old OS's anyway?). Right now I am booting XP, 2nd copy XP, 2000 SVR, and Linux. Don't have any reason to run 98 or ME.
sabio
1
Since I install for the first time windows xp, I decided to get both OS, win98 and the new winxp pro. So I installed win98 first and xp then, and I used the boot loader that xp provided. But as it's mentioned in this forum, some problems begins to appear, like xp system folders written in win98, and others.
I have a 40 gb hd with 2 partitions (0 win98 and 1 xp).
Reading the posts here I decided to test a third part boot loader prog., and I installed System Commander 7.05. For nowon all seems to be working great.
My question are:
1) will this boot loader software works good in this conditions, where I had previously installed both OS or this kind of software works better when you install the second OS after install it.?
2) When you power on my PC and System commander begins, if you select to boot windows xp, the winxp boot manager appears, asking to choose betwen xp and 98. I modify in the windows xp boot.ini file, the timeout option to 0. This is right?, or I will have to do another thing?
This is my winxp boot.ini file, now that I'm install System Commander:
[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98 SE"
I have a 40 gb hd with 2 partitions (0 win98 and 1 xp).
Reading the posts here I decided to test a third part boot loader prog., and I installed System Commander 7.05. For nowon all seems to be working great.
My question are:
1) will this boot loader software works good in this conditions, where I had previously installed both OS or this kind of software works better when you install the second OS after install it.?
2) When you power on my PC and System commander begins, if you select to boot windows xp, the winxp boot manager appears, asking to choose betwen xp and 98. I modify in the windows xp boot.ini file, the timeout option to 0. This is right?, or I will have to do another thing?
This is my winxp boot.ini file, now that I'm install System Commander:
[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98 SE"
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Johnny™
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i just did the exactly what this thread was about and found it was actually quite easy to install any other O/S with XP installed already.. system commander works well to do the trick the only thing u must remember to do is make the boot disk and startup disk for system commander before attempting to load the second o/s, u will need them to re-enable system commader after ur second o/s is installed as it will ovewrite ur current boot file. with system commander there is not even a need to partition the drive first as the program will build a partition to install ur second o/s to whatever size u want it. system commander 7 is very useful and a very easy to use program