What is safe to strip?

[Tesla85]

How can I tell what can safely be stripped from a dvd? I just made a backup of a Blue's Clue's DVD because my son can be rather rough with the originals. I stripped the FBI logo and previews at the begining of the DVD and burnned it but when I play the DVD in my standalone it takes 30sec. to a Min to bring up the Main Menu. It just shows a black screen until the menu is loaded. I think I probably should have stripped more out to get rid of the delay but I didnt want to make the backup unplayable.

Thanks,

Tesla85

 

[DenFussell]

How can I tell what can safely be stripped from a dvd? I just made a backup of a Blue's Clue's DVD because my son can be rather rough with the originals. I stripped the FBI logo and previews at the begining of the DVD and burnned it but when I play the DVD in my standalone it takes 30sec. to a Min to bring up the Main Menu. It just shows a black screen until the menu is loaded. I think I probably should have stripped more out to get rid of the delay but I didnt want to make the backup unplayable.

Thanks,

Tesla85

That's normal. When you strip those items, they are replaced with a corresponding amount of black. Something we have to live with for now.

Good Luck!

 

[timekills]

That's normal. When you strip those items, they are replaced with a corresponding amount of black. Something we have to live with for now.

Good Luck!

Well, sort of. You can remap the first play PGC to start immediately with the opening menu.

 

[DenFussell]

Well, sort of. You can remap the first play PGC to start immediately with the opening menu.

That's correct, but the whole purpose of DS is to automate the process and that requires manual intervention. Many of those using DS will be unfamiliar with IFOEdit.

Thanks!

 

[Tesla85]

Is there a good guide on how to remap to the main menu?

 

[old-hack]

2Cool at doom9.org has posted dozens (maybe hundreds) of IFOEdit tips & tricks to include modifying the entry point to your movie. Just do a search on the doom9 forums. No need to duplicate that info here.

P.S. I'm pretty sure MackemX has posted similar IFOEdit tricks on doom9.org as well. Didn't mean to give 2Cool all of the credit.

Is there a good guide on how to remap to the main menu?

 

[Arianos]

That's correct, but the whole purpose of DS is to automate the process and that requires manual intervention. Many of those using DS will be unfamiliar with IFOEdit..

This, along with other cool stuff I am sure will be in future updates of DS. I think MX and TMG are overcautious to pre-announcments of future features, especially after the unfortunate situation at Doom9. But also remember the many fixes on 0.1.1, most of which were pleasent surprises.

 

[StanHere]

Having tried many, tools & guides for DVD ripping over the last 11 months, I am a pre-release donor of MackemX's DVDStripper owing to his pre-existing credibility; many postings of help in several areas at doom's fabulous web site.

True to form, MX's two releases-to-date work as advertised for me, especially where I need it the most, re-working episodic DVD's.

Previously, I was using DVDShrink, IfoEdit and Dimad's 'Menu-Edit', fully regged to obtain acceptable results w/o unwanted intro's and extra's.

Now with DVDStripper, I obtain my desired results a LOT faster.

Having experienced unacceptable 'blank/black' screen delays as addressed here, I located a 10,240 byte mini-sized, blank *.vob linked from Doom's site some time ago.

Using Menu-Edit, I can not only delete or alter DVD menu buttons, but I can replace any intro's or logo's, full size or compressed, with the minute 'blank' vob above.

While it is getting a lot easier, a lot faster to create an acceptable, quality product, you serve yourself best by devoting time & patience to following this fine forum as well as Doom's & others. The volume of help & info is awesome.

Lastly, I recommend testing any "end product" with PowerDVD first for "behavior" and secondarily, if burning with Nero, only proceed if Nero does not 'report allocation etc error(s) when initiating the actual burn.

StanHere ;-)

 

[The-poacher]

StanHere
Tnx for dropping in &
Welcome to our forum & now yours <> I reckon your help & knowledge will be most welcome here

 

[Arianos]

@Stanhere:
I found that as far as unnoying blank-black time is concerned, looking for the position of it(them) with Power DVD (right-click, Show Information) finding it in the VIDEO_TS.IFO and then in the ifo it belongs to, confirm with Preview in Ifoedit and deleting it's playback, gets me better results (no playback time). And 100% compliant (Philips 743 )
Of course, menuedit regged is a MUST for stripping.
Oh, and welcome to the forum
Edit: the delete playback trick MUST be done AFTER transcoding!

 

[rickten]

Is there any reason why removing certain items would cause the dvd to be unplayable.

I'm currently trying to backup my copy of x-files s4 d1 and I'm having big problems.

If I send the disc directly to dvd shrink bypassing dvdstripper and then burn with imgtool it has no problems.

But when I strip out the extras using dvdstripper and the fbi warnings. Then send it to dvd shrink and img tool I get very irratic results. PowerDVD sometimes will load it but then when I click on a button for an extra that I have stripped it will freeze. Sometimes powerdvd can't even start the dvd all together.

Is there anything that I shouldn't rip, possibly to help keep the dvd structure more stable?

I see lots of files that are only 10KB and play all black. Do they serve a purpose? I even tried leaving the menu system completely intact only ripping out the video of the extras and still had no luck.

So I guess my question is are their any key elements that I really should just leave be in order to get a higher rate of success.

 

[Arianos]

.... but then when I click on a button for an extra that I have stripped it will freeze. Sometimes powerdvd can't even start the dvd all together.

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It's always smart to delete unused buttons with Menuedit. Prefferably Menuedit Registered, as sometimes plain 'delete' has funny results. I use "jump to next" with no problems so far

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Is there anything that I shouldn't rip, possibly to help keep the dvd structure more stable?

So far on over ...I don't remember anymore backups with DVDStripper, the only thing that has caused some trouble, though I'm still not 100% sure, is deleting the parental screen. But as I say, I'm not 100% sure even 4 that. Otherwise, the general rule of not deleting menus for things that need access stands (ALL cases of such menus, watch out for duplicate menus)

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I see lots of files that are only 10KB and play all black. Do they serve a purpose? I even tried leaving the menu system completely intact only ripping out the video of the extras and still had no luck.

It's best to leave them intact. - Wise move, but maybe there are instances (copies) of that menu you deleted accidentally.

Power DVD is not always THAT stable. Often On first try it stutters, I turn it off, turn it on again and it's ok. But as I use it over a network, it could be because of that. You can try WinDVD for a test.
Also, what standalone player do you have?

 

[Arianos]

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Using Menu-Edit, I can not only delete or alter DVD menu buttons, but I can replace any intro's or logo's, full size or compressed, with the minute 'blank' vob above.

Sorry to come back, but as it might apply to many, I have to say that if you replace a long intro in Menuedit with a blank vob, or remove it in DVDStripper, the playing time will be the same for both programs even if it's a quick flash or a long blank intro