What are the best conditions for recording?

planoski

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Hi all,

I am setting up a PC-Tower for recording and I would like the disk are as goods as possible.
I have read I have to connect only one writer each IDE channel, but I don´t know why, I have read something about coasters too, what are they?

If someone can tell me information about the best way to setup my tower and why or the problems which can appear if I don´t go by the right way ...

Best regards.
 
By "PC-Tower for recording" do you mean a duplicator? if so then don´t get into trouble by setting configurations and connections with a PC rather than that look for duplicator controller, there are several brands out there like Acard or Wytron that can provide any solution for duplication and are very easy to use and configure and will cost much less than a PC.

Coasters are disk that are partially burned and never finished so they become useless and a waste of money.

Yes every burner must have his own IDE channel because otherwise they would be sharing the bandwidth of the channel and this would lead to failure or in the best case will slow down the burning times.

If you provide more info on what exactly are you planning to do sure there´ll be more advises that can guide you.
 
weboneando said:
...Coasters are disk that are partially burned and never finished so they become useless and a waste of money
they are called coasters because they become usefull only to place your cold drinks on, in order to save your precious furniture varnish ;)
 

planoski

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Que bien, puedo hablarte in Spanish, es que el English no se me da muy bien .... en realidad soy un desastre.

El tema es que a un amigo y a mi nos han ofrecido un currillo para testear discos CDR (a bajo nivel no te vayas a pensar). Tienen que grabarse en PC y una vez grabados con una serie de grabadoras se los entregamos y ellos los evaluan. Queremos saber cual es la mejor manera o la manera mas limpia de quemarlos, es decir, que lo que se refleje en el disco sea como mucho el actuar de la grabadora que es la que en realidad tiene contacto directo con el disco.

Contada esa primera parte viene la segunda que es la de la torre. Nos han recomendado que tengamos un PC por cada grabadora. Eso me parace muy bien pero no me dicen porque asi que yo, que tengo un equipo con 4 canales IDE, habia pensado en utilizarlo y al ir a internet a buscar informacion me he encontrado que hay controversia.

Por esto es por lo que pido un poco de luz, debo de tener una grabadora en cada equipo (por que?), puedo utilizar mi torre con 7 grabadoras, mi torre con 4 grabadoras .... that´s my question.

(Saludos para Antonio)
 
ok,plz next time u post in spanish or other lang ,plz include an english version so that other ppl may understand & try 2 help u ;)
 

planoski

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Ok serjer, I am going to try translate my last message to English but I am so bad with English language that perphaps you don´t understand my problem, come there!!

I explainned that I have to test CDR, record CDR to after testing CDR so I want that the influence of de machine (computer) is minor possible. I have to record with PC so I have been recommended by CD's owner that I have one machine per writer, I don't know why is the reason of this (I want to know), moreover I have a PC with four IDE channels that I would like to use.

So I would like someone carries me to the right way and give me the solution to my problem and why.

Sorry again for my English expresions, I am very bad (I said it)

Cheers.
 
ok ;)
1) i don't think u'll be able to burn discs on say ,2 burners @ the same time,connected/not on the same cable coz the discs will end up as coasters(busted cds),that is,u'll lose ur money :D
2) u will need a hard disc becoz u will need an operating system ,winXp.... & a burning program to burn ur discs...thus it is not possible 2 use all your 4 ide 4 burning stuffs...
Thus if u want u r lookin 4,u 'll need a duplicator,whose's sole purpose is burning ,on all its available channels

hope i have answered wat u were lookin 4 ;)
:D
 
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planoski

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don´t be angry with me but you don't help me anything, :)

I have to use a PC (obligatory)
I want to know why I can not record with my PC (4 channels)

Help!
 
planoski said:
I want to know why I can not record with my PC (4 channels)
Help!
Primero hay que aclarar si tu PC en realidad tiene 4 canales IDE o si te estas confundiendo y lo que tienes es la posibilidad de conectar 4 dispositivos IDE, asi que lo que debes saber es lo siguiente:

- Un canal IDE corresponde fisicamente a cada conector IDE que tengas disponible, a cada canal IDE puedes conectar 2 dispositivos, esto es que si tu tarjeta madre viene con los componentes comunes (2 conectores IDE y 1 de Floppy) entonces solo tienes 2 canales IDE.

Segundo solo puedes conectar un grabador por canal porque si conectas dos el ancho de banda y los comandos de control son malinterpretados por las unidades y entonces se arruina la grabacion.

De modo que en una PC puedes conectar tantos grabadores como canales IDE tengas, considerando que debes tener un lector si quieres grabar "al vuelo" y que este tambien debe tener su propio canal IDE.

Yo he configurado algunas PC del siguiente modo:
- Primer canal IDE:disco duro
- Segundo canal IDE: Grabador
- Tercer canal IDE: Grabador
- Cuarto canal IDE: Grabador
El tercer y cuarto canal IDE pertenecen a una controladora ATA100 pci que agrego adicionalmente y no grabo "al vuelo" sino que creo una imagen en disco duro y luego hago la grabacion.

De este modo puedes agregar mas controladoras y grabadores solo asegurate de que las controladoras no sean RAID (Promise hizo un tiraje de su modelo Fastrack que funcionaba bien pero las nuevas versiones no aceptan mas que discos duros).

En cuanto a programas para obtener una grabacion casi identica al original lo mas recomendable es Alcohol 120%

TRANSLATION

First we must clear if your PC really has 4 IDE channels or if you´re confused and what you have are just 2 channels in wich you can connect 4 devices, so what you must know is this:

- Each IDE channel has one fisical connector, to each channel you can connect 2 devices so if your Mother board comes with the usual layout (2 IDE connectors and 1 floppy connector) then you only have 2 IDE channels.

Second you can connect only one burner for channel because otherwise the bandwith in the channel is shared and command controls are mistaken by the units and then the burning gets screwed.

So in a PC you can connect as many burners as IDE channels you have, considering that you should have one reader if you want to burn "on the fly" and that the reader must have his own channel also.

I have configured PC´s like this:
- First IDE channel: Hard disk
- Second IDE channel: Burner
- Third IDE channel: Burner
- Fourth IDE channel: Burner
Third and fourth IDE channels are provided by an ATA100 pci controller that I add and don´t burn "on the fly" I make an image in the HD and then burn it.

This way you can add more controllers and burners just make sure that controllers are not RAID (Some of Promise´s Fastrack model used to work well but the new ones just work with HDs)

As for apps to get an almost identical copy of the source Alcohol 120% is one of the best.
 
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