will this card be good to play GTA 3?
Voodoo3 3000 PCI 16 meg Video Card
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It won't be able to run it very well, as GTA 3 is running with direct-x 8.x & I don't believe voodoos support that (only latest nvidia/ati based cards do properly).
Not to mention it is using more advanced 3D objects that a 16bit card will have trouble keeping up with.
You might be able to use some form of renderer with minimal settings (but it will not look pretty).
Sorry to say this, but it is a good time now to upgrade your video card.
Good luck
Not to mention it is using more advanced 3D objects that a 16bit card will have trouble keeping up with.
You might be able to use some form of renderer with minimal settings (but it will not look pretty).
Sorry to say this, but it is a good time now to upgrade your video card.
Good luck
Tweaked XP drivers here - h**p://www.voodoofiles.com/5364
More tweaked drivers - h**p://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=1
Rummaging around, there are a LOT of 3rd party tweaked drivers around, often made by pulling better components from other driver sets.
PS. I would never recommend a PCI card unless you have no AGP.
More tweaked drivers - h**p://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=1
Rummaging around, there are a LOT of 3rd party tweaked drivers around, often made by pulling better components from other driver sets.
PS. I would never recommend a PCI card unless you have no AGP.
Sorry to say this, but it is a good time now to upgrade your video card.
Good luck
What will be a good card to get ? under the $100 range thankx
Good luck
What will be a good card to get ? under the $100 range thankx
ok i really dont understand what AGP is so if i get a AGP card where would it go?
ok now try to help me out here which of this is better
which of this will be better overall h**p://www.bestbuy.com/compare.asp?tp=7&title=&m=488&cat=521&scat=522&b=0&ta=&txtcount=20&0=On&T0=11101105&T1=11101106&T2=11090904&T3=11101115&T4=11121246&T5=11101103&T6=11099089&Remove.x=111&Remove.y=8
i would really like a good card to play video games like GTA 3 with no problems thankx
ok now try to help me out here which of this is better
which of this will be better overall h**p://www.bestbuy.com/compare.asp?tp=7&title=&m=488&cat=521&scat=522&b=0&ta=&txtcount=20&0=On&T0=11101105&T1=11101106&T2=11090904&T3=11101115&T4=11121246&T5=11101103&T6=11099089&Remove.x=111&Remove.y=8
i would really like a good card to play video games like GTA 3 with no problems thankx
AGP is single motherboard slot for AGP video cards:
Similar density to PCI, but set further into the motherboard (away from the back), usually away from the edge too!
Be careful not to cunfuse wirth an AMR (Audio Modem Riser) slot, which is the other thing you might only have one of - or ISA slots which have a course contact pitch.
PCI (the 4-5 fine pitch slots) is essentially obsolete for video cards, with the choice being rather limited - I'll stick my neck out and say that you won't find a hardware DirectX8 capable card in PCI form - and if your motherboard lacks AGP, the whole system is probably not up to heavy-duty 3D gaming anyway.
AGP has been standard (more or less) since Pentium 2 / Celeron / AMD Athlon/Duron class motherbords - other than on some with onboard graphics.
Similar density to PCI, but set further into the motherboard (away from the back), usually away from the edge too!
Be careful not to cunfuse wirth an AMR (Audio Modem Riser) slot, which is the other thing you might only have one of - or ISA slots which have a course contact pitch.
PCI (the 4-5 fine pitch slots) is essentially obsolete for video cards, with the choice being rather limited - I'll stick my neck out and say that you won't find a hardware DirectX8 capable card in PCI form - and if your motherboard lacks AGP, the whole system is probably not up to heavy-duty 3D gaming anyway.
AGP has been standard (more or less) since Pentium 2 / Celeron / AMD Athlon/Duron class motherbords - other than on some with onboard graphics.
motherboard info
Napoli-2 Micro ATX (STX V1.2 form factor) motherboard, TriGem, Korea Single Edge Contact Cartridge design with Slot 1 connector Intel 443 ZX core and ITE8673F Super I/O controller Add-on AGP 3D graphics accelerator slot Crystal CS4281/CS4280 built-in Sound Blaster Pro, MPC-3, MPU-401 compatible Audio Enhanced Stereo full duplex operation.
Napoli-2 Micro ATX (STX V1.2 form factor) motherboard, TriGem, Korea Single Edge Contact Cartridge design with Slot 1 connector Intel 443 ZX core and ITE8673F Super I/O controller Add-on AGP 3D graphics accelerator slot Crystal CS4281/CS4280 built-in Sound Blaster Pro, MPC-3, MPU-401 compatible Audio Enhanced Stereo full duplex operation.
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i think DirectX 8 graphics accelerator cards (eg GeForce3 Ti200, GeForce3 Classic, GeForce3 Ti500, GeForce4 Ti4200, GeForce4 Ti4400, GeForce4 Ti4600, ATI Radeon 8500) are only rational, if your processor runs with a clock of 1000 MHz or more;
i checked your postet link, and there are only two DirectX 8 cards;
one is the ATI Radeon 8500 and the other GeForce3 is at this site: _http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?b=0&e=11121246&m=488&cat=521&scat=522
here are the copied System Requirements: PC with Intel® Pentium® II processor or AMD-K6®-2 processor; Windows 95 (OSR 2), 98 or later (or Windows NT 4.0 with SP 5 or 6); AGP 2.0 port; 64MB RAM; 10MB available disk space; CD-ROM drive; 300-watt power supply
so the resume is, your PC must support AGP 2 standard; this is not granted in your posted system overview; check the homepage of your motherboard fabricator;
If your motherboard does not support AGP 2 standard, the card does not work!
@ poko
i thought the performance difference between AGP 2 and 4 is not a large one
that's it; you are able to connect a AGP cardHHH_THE_GAME said:
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i think DirectX 8 graphics accelerator cards (eg GeForce3 Ti200, GeForce3 Classic, GeForce3 Ti500, GeForce4 Ti4200, GeForce4 Ti4400, GeForce4 Ti4600, ATI Radeon 8500) are only rational, if your processor runs with a clock of 1000 MHz or more;
i checked your postet link, and there are only two DirectX 8 cards;
one is the ATI Radeon 8500 and the other GeForce3 is at this site: _http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?b=0&e=11121246&m=488&cat=521&scat=522
here are the copied System Requirements: PC with Intel® Pentium® II processor or AMD-K6®-2 processor; Windows 95 (OSR 2), 98 or later (or Windows NT 4.0 with SP 5 or 6); AGP 2.0 port; 64MB RAM; 10MB available disk space; CD-ROM drive; 300-watt power supply
so the resume is, your PC must support AGP 2 standard; this is not granted in your posted system overview; check the homepage of your motherboard fabricator;
If your motherboard does not support AGP 2 standard, the card does not work!
@ poko
i thought the performance difference between AGP 2 and 4 is not a large one
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2x AGP slot, probably to AGP 1.0 specification (3.3v only) - many cards stating AGP2.0 required will actually be "universal".
Forget the Geforce 4 MX420 cards - they're the cheapest for a very good reason - not a "cut down" Geforce 4, but a slightly more developed Geforce 2 - and the Geforce 3 will absolutely slaughter them! The MX420 also has a rather low memory bandwidth, leaving them trailing in anything highly fill-rate dependent.
Between the ATI 8500 and the Geforce 3, it's personal choice - test methods tip the balance either way, but Nvidia tend to produce good drivers more often than ATI do.
The ATI 7500 scored best in it's price range in one test, but is an older generation card lacking shaders - a feature which will be more critical when DirectX8 is more common.
Forget the Geforce 4 MX420 cards - they're the cheapest for a very good reason - not a "cut down" Geforce 4, but a slightly more developed Geforce 2 - and the Geforce 3 will absolutely slaughter them! The MX420 also has a rather low memory bandwidth, leaving them trailing in anything highly fill-rate dependent.
Between the ATI 8500 and the Geforce 3, it's personal choice - test methods tip the balance either way, but Nvidia tend to produce good drivers more often than ATI do.
The ATI 7500 scored best in it's price range in one test, but is an older generation card lacking shaders - a feature which will be more critical when DirectX8 is more common.
well this atx micro is only 550 mhz is a 2 yr old pc the power supply is only about 150 watts i think so most of u r saying the ATI Radeon 8500 will be ok right? i currently have a Nvidia TNT2 card but it only has 8mb which is not compatible with GTA3 one of my friends was selling his Voodoo the one mention on this topic but after hearing that it wouldnt be good i didnt buy it.
well keep on suggesting guys by the way the pc that i have is a E-machines Emonster 550
well keep on suggesting guys by the way the pc that i have is a E-machines Emonster 550
well i dont want to get a new MOBO due to i should be getting a new pc before the end of this year so i just want the best card that this computer will support thankxpokopiko said:
If it's only a 150W PSU, it may be hard pressed to run some of those cards!
A little reference I found:
h**p://www.ati.com/support/faq/agpchart.html
RAGE 128 PRO, RADEON, and newer products are keyed “Universal AGP” and may operate in AGP 1.0 and AGP 2.0 compliant motherboards.
Nvidia's Geforce2MX (fairly weak these days) DOES work in an AGP 1.0 slot in a rather fussy machine - other Geforce models might also.
PS. you might find this useful
h**p://www.gta3forums.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=3d11f965799affff;act=ST;f=43;t=20590
It confirms the VooDoo cards would be very poor choices, since they're no longer supported by official driver updates.
The Geforce range seem to be up and down depending on driver versions - the 29.42's at one review site were better than the previous 28.32's - which flopped on a couple of tests!
A little reference I found:
h**p://www.ati.com/support/faq/agpchart.html
RAGE 128 PRO, RADEON, and newer products are keyed “Universal AGP” and may operate in AGP 1.0 and AGP 2.0 compliant motherboards.
Nvidia's Geforce2MX (fairly weak these days) DOES work in an AGP 1.0 slot in a rather fussy machine - other Geforce models might also.
PS. you might find this useful
h**p://www.gta3forums.com/ib/ikonboard.cgi?s=3d11f965799affff;act=ST;f=43;t=20590
It confirms the VooDoo cards would be very poor choices, since they're no longer supported by official driver updates.
The Geforce range seem to be up and down depending on driver versions - the 29.42's at one review site were better than the previous 28.32's - which flopped on a couple of tests!