Vcd a little distorted
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what type of DVD is it & what settings did you use?
(am thinking possibly an NTSC DVD that you mistakingly made into a PAL one instead? or something of a sorts)
(am thinking possibly an NTSC DVD that you mistakingly made into a PAL one instead? or something of a sorts)
You know I wondered the same thing. But that I made it NTSC or Film when it was suppose to be the other. On the tut. it says when Flaskmpeg opens up with the rectangle box to check the frames. Well the fps were 29.97 (which is NTSC and says that) but then under "Detected Fps" it says FILM 23.976) so I was a little confused. So I took my best guestimation and went with NTSC. Did I make a mistake? Just so everyone knows the movie was "What women want" in the US.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
no it should have been right, but the aspect ration in Flaskmpeg probably wasn't then (should either be 16:9 or 4:3).
However a better method to use than FlaskMpeg is DVD2AVI & then use TMPGEnc to convert it. The picture quality will be better & you can't make the same mistakes as FlaskMpeg (well some people can lol, but for the most part it is easier & better).
It's in the tut section.
Good luck.
However a better method to use than FlaskMpeg is DVD2AVI & then use TMPGEnc to convert it. The picture quality will be better & you can't make the same mistakes as FlaskMpeg (well some people can lol, but for the most part it is easier & better).
It's in the tut section.
Good luck.
Unless you want subtitles, I would suggestyou go with the DVD2AVI/TMPGEnc method, never a problem with that. As its NTSC but actually FILM, then follow those directions in the Tut. Make sure you select 16:9 in TMPGEnc and it will encode just fine.
Chickenman have another question for ya. I know a roll of the eyes. What can I say I am inquisitiv and like to compare and like your self like quality. At first I made the mistake and used the other method for making vcd's (using Flask and the Panasonic encoder) and the you corrected me here telling me to use the TMPGEnc, DVD2AVI method. Well I have done them both now w/ the same rip frm the dvd and it appears to me that the Flask one is a better qual. Now I don't doubt that maybe I made a mistake in here, but I followed both to the "T" and when ever I use TMPGEnc my results always turn out kinda grainy or blocky. Like it HAD been done on a computer where as the one that was done with Flask does not appear to me that way. Does TMPGEnc produce a sharper picture maybe and that it also brings out these things that I am not liking also? Let me know your expertise on this. With out your guidance I would have been lost a long time ago.
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dropzone, I think I know what it is. With FlaskMpeg, when you set the colors & everything to 20, it is like the soften block noise setting in tmpgenc. If you find it grainy like that at times, then use that setting at either 35 or 50 for both, depending on how blocky things are for you.
Another thing that can probably help, when you use dvd2avi & you hit F5 to check the movie... if says it is mainly film (in the mid 90% or above), then you should use Forced film setting in in dvd2avi before saving project. Also make sure the YUV>RGB is set to TV scale, but I suspect it mainly has to deal with the block setting in tmpgenc.
Hope that helps & CM will probs tell you better, however if your naked eye prefers the look of FlaskMpeg, then by all means I don't see why not to use it. It is after all one's own preference.
Another thing that can probably help, when you use dvd2avi & you hit F5 to check the movie... if says it is mainly film (in the mid 90% or above), then you should use Forced film setting in in dvd2avi before saving project. Also make sure the YUV>RGB is set to TV scale, but I suspect it mainly has to deal with the block setting in tmpgenc.
Hope that helps & CM will probs tell you better, however if your naked eye prefers the look of FlaskMpeg, then by all means I don't see why not to use it. It is after all one's own preference.
dropezone, in my and most others opinion the Flask and alls its hybrids with the Panasonic pluggin gives a slightly sharper picture than with the DVD2AVI/TMPGenc way, but at the cost of blocking. In fast action scenes macro blocks (on a PC screen about 1cm square) start appearing and is somewhat distracting. TMPGEnc softens the picture slightly with blocking gone except in the absolute extreme scenes. Flask/Pana also produces a lot of ghosting, all edges have light or darker line around them. again not with TMPgenc. The Flask/Pana method does produce a better audio playback however. Also, TMPGEnc sould also be set to Highest Quality (very slow) for best results.
But as with all conversions, "beauty is in eyes of the beholder", so is picture quality. You use what ever method that you feel is best for you.
I have been trying another method of producing a VCD with some excellent results. Uses TMPGenc still but produces a sharper pic like Pana does and with far superiour audio. Just waiting for the non-beta program to be released and I will publish a tutorial for it.
But as with all conversions, "beauty is in eyes of the beholder", so is picture quality. You use what ever method that you feel is best for you.
I have been trying another method of producing a VCD with some excellent results. Uses TMPGenc still but produces a sharper pic like Pana does and with far superiour audio. Just waiting for the non-beta program to be released and I will publish a tutorial for it.
I will have to take a look at those things that you were talking about with Flask. I am also going to try the stuff that shadow was talking about too and see if that corrects the prob that I am having w/TMPGEnc. I do have the setting at highest qual. I am looking forward to the new tut that you are going to put out.
Thanks for the help again guys.
Thanks for the help again guys.