Soundtrack clicking / encoding problem in Nero

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buddycat

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Soundtrack clicking

That's the best way I can describe what I have on one of my VHS transfers. Anybody know what might cause this or how this could be resolved? I started with a 4x (set on on auto-burn, max speed), then I tried with a 2x disk at 2x speed (although I may have had "Detect maximum checked). The audio is set for LPCM.

I recorded two discs without this problem. Now, this tape is about 14 years old, but in incredibly good shape. What could be the problem?
 
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Did you tried to limit the line-in source in Windows' sound controll panell > Recording settings?

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buddycat

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Soundtrack issues

No, but I've narrowed downt the problem.

First, I cleared up one problem of playback on my computer by replacing the sound card. Made a world of difference.

I became suspicious when this problem was appearing on even a relatively new tape transfer. So I did a test capture, then tried playing it on Windows Media Plaer. Sounds fine.

NEXT, I brought it into Nero. Skipping through the chapters/layouts, etc., I next went to the Preview window where you click the graphic of the TV remote. The clicks and "wows" are there. So, apparently, this is a Nero sound driver issue, not really a tape age issue (yet). So is there any known driver problem that can be addressed, or do I still have a $100 coaster for a program disk, because it doesn't do me any good to burn disks.

I've got a trouble report in to Tech support, but of course, their replies are not very speedy (3 working days) and I'm awfully impatient with the constant problems I've had of one sort or another over the last 3 months....
 
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buddycat

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Sound clicking

It hasn't encoded anything yet. Are we talking about the part of the encoding of the preview player?
 
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buddycat said:
next went to the Preview window where you click the graphic of the TV remote. The clicks and "wows" are there.
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it could be an simple overload of the PCI bus; not yet encoded sound and video streams generates an extreme data transfer;

capturing analog videos without an hardware encoder device is in generally a bad idea;
something like this is what really you needs: http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage_n.asp?Product_ID=1426&Langue_ID=7
don't trust promises about quality life encoding by CPU and software;
 
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buddycat

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I have the Videoh! capture device. The only problem is it doesn't play well with others. I can't even use Nero to capture with. Videoh! has a bastardized version of MYDVD 4.0 that does okay, but then it's tied to the Arcsoft editor, which is just useless. I wrote them a rather pointed letter that this "bundled" software is misleading at best, and misrepresentative of what you can do at worst.
 
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now i did read at Adaptec's that "VideOh! DVD" is really an hardware decoder; i'm a little bit confused now; What did you use for capturing/encoding? What did you use for mastering the video? What did you use for burning?
And why did you use Nero Express? :eek: :confused: :confused:

your whole process should look like:
- capturing thru your hardware encoder by using Adobe Premiere or similar or by using your bundled software; it doesn't matter there will be no quality difference because it only depends at your encoder device;
if you have sound problems in your hardware captured video then they are strictly hardware related;

- editing the video and mastering a DVD image by using Adobe Premiere or similar

- burning the DVD image by using Nero or any other DVD image burning capable burning application;


if you bought the "VideOh! CD" device, then you did a bad deal; this isn't a real capture device, because it doesn't have an hardware decoding processor;
 
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buddycat

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Yes. the Videoh! is an external hardware device that I'm capturing with.
I think maybe I'm a bit fuzzy on your terminology. So here are the hoops I jump through.

1. Capture using Videoh! (DVD, not CD) and a bundled version of MYDVD that's only good for that function.

2. Pull the mpg into Nerovision Express, where I edit, put the menus, the background and the buttons on.

3. Then I burn the disk using the burn disk function.

(Sigh). I got impatient with this mess and tried to download some demos in the meantime. Apparently, some files from Nero (I suspect) won't let me do it. So I'd have to pull it to use it. Anyway, I re-installed, and the damn thing doesn't see the Backpack again! :mad:

I know someone aimed me to the right file on the Nero site, but I can't find it. Any idea? The download was in two parts -- one was a winaspi32 (I think) and the other one was something that had to be pasted into the IOSUBSYS file.
 
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buddycat said:
2. Pull the mpg into Nerovision Express, where I edit, put the menus, the background and the buttons on.
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it's not a good idea to do this with Nero; Nero recodes your video stream and probably distorts the sound by doing that; Nero's MPEG2 encoder is one of the worstes around;
you should really try a real DVD mastering application; i'm not an expert, i'm the "audio only" guy here in our forum; so it might be worth to take a look at our tutorial section what other members recommends: http://www.dvdrbase.com/forumdisplay.php?f=117



I know someone aimed me to the right file on the Nero site, but I can't find it. Any idea? The download was in two parts -- one was a winaspi32 (I think) and the other one was something that had to be pasted into the IOSUBSYS file.
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there is nothing special about the Nero installation; winaspi32.dll is installed automatically into the Nero folder and needs no seperatly update; and the IOSUBSYS folder was used during old W9x times no need to paste anything in it;
 
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buddycat

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Clicks, etc.

Re: the winaspi.32 file is not what matters. It's the neroapix.vxd file that needs to be pasted in to make it see my drive.

Your words about the video recoding sounds very discouraging. I've gone through a lot of trouble and spent $100 on this stupid program. I really don't want to have to spend yet more money. What is a "real authroing program"? That sounds expensive to a person that just wants to transfer analog video to DVD.

I read the link "Dvd burning with Nero,and dvd decryptor", although what Nero has to do with this, I'm not sure. It's mainly about the decryptor. The link on that appears to be for an earlier version of Nero(?). Or is it partof the smartstart programs (which I've removed from my drive at the moment)?

Right now, I've got a guy creating a Win98Se platform and playing around with the software, His aim is to try to get it to work successfully and then duplicate the set up on system. He suspects there may be a codec problem.
 
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buddycat said:
What is a "real authroing program"? That sounds expensive to a person that just wants to transfer analog video to DVD.
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e.g. DVDMaestro, Adobe Premiere or Pinnacle Studio;

will move this thread to the real DVD rubric; so the DVD experts will find your problem; :)
 
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buddycat

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e.g. DVDMaestro, Adobe Premiere or Pinnacle Studio;

will move this thread to the real DVD rubric; so the DVD experts will find your problem; :)
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Where to I look?

In the meantime, the PC reapir guy says he's getting a good burn on a Win98Se platform with the software, which means there's defintely some sort of conflicting drivers/codecs on my machine..... :(
 
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buddycat said:
which means there's defintely some sort of conflicting drivers/codecs on my machine..... :(
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you can do a parallel W2k or XP installation onto a second HDD partition, so you can try your conversion in a plain system in comparison;
 
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