setting up a home network (with 1 on xp n the rest on win2000))

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ubamous3

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hi,

i have a computer network at home and all the computers are on windows 2000 pro;i just bought a new computer but this one came with xp and i have had the toughest time creating the shares to the other computers, and i dont know what i am missing; please help!!!

ps on backgroun:
1/this network is a peer to peer network and all the computers should be able to access everything on all computers.

2/i have disabled the firewall on the new computer in case that might be the problem

3/ i used the name workgroup on all the computers so they should be in sync.

4/ at one point, the other computers can see this new computer but on this computer, under network neighborhood\workgroup, it only shows itself as computers in the network instead of seeing all computers

5/ on the C and D partition, i even see the shared logo next to it showing that it's being shared.

So if there's a missing link, please let me know as i m desperate.

Thanks.
 
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ubamous3

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ipdave said:
Do you have File and Print Sharing added in your TCP/IP properties of your network connections?
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thanks for responding; yes i do have file n print sharing added, but i figured it out; i think when i enabled NETBIOS over TCP/IP in the advanced screen, that worked (even tho i have no idea what that option means :) but as long as it works, that's what matters :) )
 
ipdave

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NetBIOS is what Microsoft uses for the sharing - it has a lot of issues, so is normally turned off now, but is needed when doing file sharing.
 
Lister

Lister

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if you set up xp on domian and when wizard is finished get it to make a floppy then run that on all other pc that should sort it i had to do that when i had xp 98se and 98se

:)
 
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ubamous3

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ipdave said:
NetBIOS is what Microsoft uses for the sharing - it has a lot of issues, so is normally turned off now, but is needed when doing file sharing.
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i see a problem so far; from the xp, i can see all the other computers (on win2000 pro) and all their files, but from the other computers, i can see the xp drives, but i can't see the program files folder and the windows folders (system folders); and i thought i shared it out with maximum share; is there an additional option to set in xp that will allow that?
 
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ubamous3

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ipdave said:
Did you go to the Properties tab of the Program Files and Windows folders, and enable Sharing?
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well, i did it at the partition level (C and D) (and that should be enough if u r on win2000; then when i couldnt access program files and windows folders, i tried to do what u just suggested but it wouldnt allow me to share it because those folders are system folders; and i do have administrator rights.
 
ipdave

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Go to Tools, Folder Options, View on your Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer).

Scroll to the bottom. UNCHECK Use Simple File Sharing. This will let you actually control all the security and sharing settings that are not enabled by default.

Now you can R-click on the Program Files and Windows folders and go the Properties tab for sharing it out...
 
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ubamous3

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ipdave said:
Go to Tools, Folder Options, View on your Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer).

Scroll to the bottom. UNCHECK Use Simple File Sharing. This will let you actually control all the security and sharing settings that are not enabled by default.

Now you can R-click on the Program Files and Windows folders and go the Properties tab for sharing it out...
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ipdave,

i dont see that option about "Use Simple File Sharing" to uncheck when i went to folder options/view.

Also, so in xp, u have to do a share for each and every folder in the drive? if that's the case, that'd be absurd even tho security wise, it's a little tighter.

I did read about some kind of remote desktop control feature but u gotta get it from the xp cd, but i dont have the xp cd b/c the new computer came with xp already installed; ihavent had a chance to try it out yet; and with that feature, i have to install the remote program on all my other computers; i hope that 's not true b/c that's a lot of hassle compared to networking on win2000 pro
 
ipdave

ipdave

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Do you have XP HOME or PRO? Home may not have the control to go down to the NTFS permissions level to disable Simple File Sharing; Pro has it exactly where I told you.

You do not need a share for each and every folder; the system folder for Windows and the Progam Files sortof makes sense. You can also type the name of the unseen computer such as \\othersystem\C$ to go to the hidden drive share, then navigate from there to the folder you want.

Another thing you may try is to use the same login account and password for all your PCs - NT uses pass-through authentication to let you in.

The Remote Desktop is on by default on XP. You can either load a rdpclient on the other machines (non-XP), or you can load IIS (Web Server) on your XP box and then add the tsweb component to login via a web page from the non-XP boxes. To load the web,

1. Go to control panel, add/remove programs.
2. Click on Add/Remove Windows Components
3. Select IIS, then drill into World Wide Web Service
4. Click on Details, then select Remote Desktop Web Connection.
5. Click OK until it loads.

Then, from your other machines, use the URL of the machine name or IP /tsweb:
Example: http://192.168.1.2/tsweb
 
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ubamous3

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ipdave said:
Do you have XP HOME or PRO? Home may not have the control to go down to the NTFS permissions level to disable Simple File Sharing; Pro has it exactly where I told you.

You do not need a share for each and every folder; the system folder for Windows and the Progam Files sortof makes sense. You can also type the name of the unseen computer such as \\othersystem\C$ to go to the hidden drive share, then navigate from there to the folder you want.

Another thing you may try is to use the same login account and password for all your PCs - NT uses pass-through authentication to let you in.

The Remote Desktop is on by default on XP. You can either load a rdpclient on the other machines (non-XP), or you can load IIS (Web Server) on your XP box and then add the tsweb component to login via a web page from the non-XP boxes. To load the web,

1. Go to control panel, add/remove programs.
2. Click on Add/Remove Windows Components
3. Select IIS, then drill into World Wide Web Service
4. Click on Details, then select Remote Desktop Web Connection.
5. Click OK until it loads.

Then, from your other machines, use the URL of the machine name or IP /tsweb:
Example: http://192.168.1.2/tsweb
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thanks a lot ipdave, i'll try that; btw, i have the xp home version, not pro, so that's why i didnt see that option u mentioned earlier
 
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Sorry to say that, but the XP networking "wizard" is a total moron... at least. It may not sound sane to use third party networking software over OS that has no real need of that (in sheets) but in fact if you use XP you MUST set everyting manually (easier said than done) or forget XP for a MS network alltogether. It may sound crazy, but XP's networking wizard only manages to set properly only XP machines, and it's a hit-or-miss for other MS-Os'es.
I have tried to build the XP "network diskette" for setting up other Windows machines on the XP network, and most of the times it would simply NOT work.
 
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scarecrow said:
Sorry to say that, but the XP networking "wizard" is a total moron... at least. It may not sound sane to use third party networking software over OS that has no real need of that (in sheets) but in fact if you use XP you MUST set everyting manually (easier said than done) or forget XP for a MS network alltogether. It may sound crazy, but XP's networking wizard only manages to set properly only XP machines, and it's a hit-or-miss for other MS-Os'es.
I have tried to build the XP "network diskette" for setting up other Windows machines on the XP network, and most of the times it would simply NOT work.
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well, i have the xp home version so it doesnt have the other network features that pro does; anyway, i created the diskette, but when i put it on 1 of the other computers, it says the disk works with 98 and me only, not with 2000, so i guess i will try 3rd party software for this if possible.

What software do u guys recommend?
 
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