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i know these threads keep getting closed because of the other guy but i wanted to point out a couple of things.

1. renaming the .dat to mpeg is indeed fine because the file is mpeg.

2. renaming .vob to mpg is fine beacuse vobs are also mpeg.

however, the other guy was advising renaming the vob to avi which i don't see as correct as surely the vob is not an avi at all!

this is the reason renaming causes confusion because people think that renaming changes the file, in fact it doesn't.

i am not saying he doesn't know this but it's bad practise for new users.

the only reason renaming can sometimes work is that your player or encoder is associtated with avi therefore the player is triggered by the double clicking of an "avi" but it in fact detects that it is an mpg stream and plays it back as mpg.

i don't want to get this confused with what the other guy was doing in his tutorial because it has nothing to do with it but it's not a good idea to advise newbies to renaming files incorrectly as it creates misunderstandings of whats going on.

also, i am for 1 button backups of dvds if that's what people want but usually once you have some sucess most peopel want to know whats going on behind the scenes.

And also, copying a vob file to another folder and renaming it then comparing has to be the lamest test i've ever heard of. Of course it's gonna be the same!! you could rename it myvideo.hornyhousewife if you like!

I don't think you understand that the file extension of a file has nothing to do with the contents. do you really believe that windows explorer is complicated enough to do on the fly file conversion for you cos you happily make a file mpg.

try changing an mp3 to jpg and see if you get a picture ;)

now kindly let the people who do know what they are talking about get on helping people around here.
 
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May I kindly answer, before this thread close?
I’ll try!
About:
1.2.
We agree each other so no comments. Only one: You are the second (i am the first) saying these (1-2), all the others saying that these files are not the same. Allow me to congratulate you! (this is not irony!)
About:
“Advising renaming the vob to avi”
That was an attempt to trick CCE and after the unsuccessfully attempt it was a question!
About:
“Copying a vob file to another folder and renaming it then comparing has to be the lamest test I’ve ever heard of. Of course it's gonna be the same!! You could rename it myvideo.hornyhousewife if you like”
You are wrong Murder One. I compared by CONTENT and not by name you suggest! Comparing by name is useless! Try to copy the bitching.mp3 to another folder and rename it to bitching.jpeg and then to open it, you can’t because renaming the file will not convert it (as you wrote) but will try to associate a file extension with a program to open it!
I stop here and ill not answer to any questions or insinuations more, so there is no cause for anxiety and no cause to close this thread too!
I allow a request to let my ego and to be a member posting only “thanks”.
I start right now:
Thank you for the info!
 
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and two same files but with other name and other extension
As you see the contens are same but even them you can not open the zip archive, you have to rename it as mp3
 

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This is a Weird discussion.

The name of a file has nothing to do with the content.

ex .
1. Make a file with notepad an write 'Test' and save it to test.txt.
2. Rename test.txt test.zip
3. type test.zip ( Should give you 'Test')
4. If you try using Totalcommander to open til test.zip you will get an error, because the file is not an ZIP Archive.

The point is some programs uses then file extension to determin what kind of file it is, and try to open it as that kind of file.
 
Denexo, that's exactly my point! When you rename the file it tries to open it as a zip. you cannot rename an mp3 to jpg and open it in photoshop. But sometimes a program you are using will open the file correctly regardless of the file name extension.

Mp3 and jpg were extreme renames to prove it's the same.

mp3 and mpg are likely to be pickedup by media player. so if you rename an mp3 to mpg it will work in media player even though the file extension is incorrect. now try renaming mp3 to dat and associated dat files with mediaplayer. i bet that works too! The file extensions are for the users to decide what type of file it is just by looking at it. File extensions are also used as triggers for automatic opening of programs. File extensions have nothing to do with the content what so ever!

changing the filename extension does not change the contents of the file.

I tried to disassociate this rename thread with what you are doing with CCE becauase it wasn't about that. CCE obviously determines it's an mpeg file and will convert it. If you write *.* (if you can do this) in the extension list when you open your file in CCE it will probably open any file that has the correct header information.

you were copying a file then comparing the two files and feeling like you knew something because your file compare said they were exactly the same!!!! It's like making a clone of yourself giving your clone a name like Brian then being surprised when you compare each other that your genetic makeup is identical!
 
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1- "you cannot rename an mp3 to jpg and open it in photoshop"
Answer: Right but the contents are the same!
2- "so if you rename an mp3 to mpg it will work in media player even though the file extension is incorrect"
Answer: MP3 is a kind of MPEG that is way it works!
3- "changing the filename extension does not change the contents of the file"
Answer: That is exactly my point! So a vob nad dat file is a mpeg!
4- "you were copying a file then comparing the two files and feeling like you knew something because your file compare said they were exactly the same"
Answer: We are talking about the same thing but with other words! :D
 
Do myself, others & yourself a favor Denexo:
READ tutorials, read books on the subjects & shuttup!
(sorry but somebody has to put a foot down)

You are just discussing things that aren't worth it & confusing others that come here for real help.
As you pointed out, if your method really worked, then your attempt at fooling an app would have worked. But it didn't and so just go back to what really works.

We see a lot of people come & go on this forum & many bring their arguments that never go anywhere. I have been PMed about questions because some are confused & I would really prefer if you can stop carrying on with this.

Now you can go and hide behind your keyboard all you want & write up another stupid response with your smilies & all of that, but it still won't change anything on how things work.
A Mac is like a PC but just 'cause you call it so doesn't make it so.

To the rest who would read this, accept my apologies but just want to make sure you all get on the right track with proper methods (whether by CM, vcd help, or any other who knows their stuff)
 
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Please allow me to doing my tests the way I know and do your like you know.
If you know as you wrote that the vob & dat files are an mpeg then I don’t see why have you do disagree with me about my method!

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Denexo said:
2- "so if you rename an mp3 to mpg it will work in media player even though the file extension is incorrect"
Answer: MP3 is a kind of MPEG that is way it works!
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no that's not why it works. it would work with any format that media player will play because it is smart enough to know what the file is from the file header contents, not the extension.

i take it english is not your native language, cos really you are causing a lot of confusion with your writing skills and contradictions.

i don't really think you know that much about video encoding so just leave this now and let people get on with their lives.
 
Denexo said:
PS for Murder One
Please allow me to doing my tests the way I know and do your like you know.
If you know as you wrote that the vob & dat files are an mpeg then I don’t see why have you do disagree with me about my method!
that's not the problem here.

you started causing stupid confusion by comparing identical files and using this as some kind of argument against the other guys. you haven't acheived anything.

do your tests anyway you like but stop annoying everyone.
 
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