PS2 Rumble Racing and Tomb Raider backup problems

[DR109]

Hello all.....I'm new to this forum but it looks great with great resources.

We are using a flip top and swap magic 3.0 in a v4 console and have been successful backing up a bunch of our games. So far all have been successful except for Rumble Racing (CD ROM), and Tomb Raider ( DVD). I use Nero 6 for all the successful burns (very simple) but when these 2 games didn't work, and after making a bunch of coasters I have tried CloneCD, Roxio, and DVDecryptor, and made several more coasters. Rumble Racing is EA and TRAOD is Aidos.

Does anyone know if these games are NOT compatible with SMD? I am suspecting they are not....have even tried CDLoader for double protection on Rumble racing to no avail. I actually suspect I have a bunch of good burns that I can not use without a chip.

Any insight would be welcomed.

 

[OwenRocky]

Does anyone know if these games are NOT compatible with SMD? I am suspecting they are not....have even tried CDLoader for double protection on Rumble racing to no avail.

Any insight would be welcomed.

What is CDLOADER and what is it used for?

 

[DR109]

What is CDLOADER and what is it used for?

CDLoader is something I never used before this but it was supposed to get by double protection prior to SMD 3.0........................3.0 was supposed to fix it but I tried it anyhow.

 

[psx_paul]

Hello all.....I'm new to this forum but it looks great with great resources.

We are using a flip top and swap magic 3.0 in a v4 console and have been successful backing up a bunch of our games. So far all have been successful except for Rumble Racing (CD ROM), and Tomb Raider ( DVD). I use Nero 6 for all the successful burns (very simple) but when these 2 games didn't work, and after making a bunch of coasters I have tried CloneCD, Roxio, and DVDecryptor, and made several more coasters. Rumble Racing is EA and TRAOD is Aidos.

Does anyone know if these games are NOT compatible with SMD? I am suspecting they are not....have even tried CDLoader for double protection on Rumble racing to no avail. I actually suspect I have a bunch of good burns that I can not use without a chip.

Any insight would be welcomed.

For the CD based game: -
Check the TOC size of the game. The PS2 won't read CD based games >650 MB without a modchip.

For the DVD based game: -
What is the exact symptoms? Does the game boot to PS2 logo then freeze? Does it start the game then go to a RSOD (Red Screen of Death) ?

There is a workaround if the DVD games goes to the RSOD: -

originally posted by my good buddy bighap over at another forum
I know lots of people are having problems starting Splinter Cell without getting the Red Screen of Death. I have discovered the solution.

Well I picked up Splinter Cell today and have good news. In case you don't already know, you can disable your apple by holding reset while booting for about 5 seconds. Here are my results.

Original with normal boot----> Boots fine but get RSOD when starting a new game.

Original with apple disabled---->Boots fine and starts new game fine.

Backup with normal boot---->Boots fine but get RSOD when starting a new game.

Backup with apple disabled---->RSOD. Duh!

I thought no this can't be. The apple is perfect and I am going to proove it.....and I did! I found a loophole.

For booting a backup do a normal boot. When starting a new game if you choose to save, let it save. It will then say saved correctly with the option to hit ok. Simply push X and the open tray button on your ps2 simultaneously. You will now just have a black screen. Let your tray stay open for a second or two then close the tray. Your game now boots perfectly.

Do this same method when starting a new game without saving as well. You will be asked do you want to save. Say no. Then you will be asked are you sure? Highlight yes and hit X and the open tray button simultaneously. Then close your tray after a second or two.

This also must be done when loading a saved game. Just highlight your saved game and hit X and open tray button simultaneously. Then close your tray after a second or two.

I still have no complaints about the apple.

 

[DR109]

For the CD based game: -
Check the TOC size of the game. The PS2 won't read CD based games >650 MB without a modchip.

For the DVD based game: -
What is the exact symptoms? Does the game boot to PS2 logo then freeze? Does it start the game then go to a RSOD (Red Screen of Death) ?

There is a workaround if the DVD games goes to the RSOD: -

Hi Paul....Not sure where to find the TOC of the CD but if you mean the entire disk its 499MB.

The DVD symptom is I put in the disk when instructed and push X....I get the blue border and its hangs there....doesn;t make it to the PS2 LOGO.

I've been able to back up every other DVD and CD games I've tried including EA games without problems

Thanks