Playback problems with dvd to cd-r

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texasgrnbayfan

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I used smartripper/dvdx/vcdeasy for conversion of a dvd for backup use. I can get all the steps to work properly and it even burns the movie onto disc(sometimes more than 1) and it will play fine on the pc through windows media player, but it will not play on any other dvd player.Is there anyway to change the settings either prior to burning the disc or is this just a problem with my other players not being able to read the disc.
 
ChickenMan

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Unfortunately not all DVD players can play SVCD's. You could try burning as a non-compliant VCD as this sometimes tricks the DVD Player thinking its a VCD but actually still the SVCD.
 
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KYUSS

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texasgrnbayfan said:
I used smartripper/dvdx/vcdeasy for conversion of a dvd for backup use. I can get all the steps to work properly and it even burns the movie onto disc(sometimes more than 1) and it will play fine on the pc through windows media player, but it will not play on any other dvd player.Is there anyway to change the settings either prior to burning the disc or is this just a problem with my other players not being able to read the disc.
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is it a VCD or SVCD u made m8?

also have you tried making a CVD?

what dvd player have you got?
 
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saxovtr

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I'm having a very similar problem to this. After converting avi. files using DVD2SVCD & procanopus encoder I get excellent results when viewing the movie on my PC but when playing the SVCD disc on my DVD player it is pixelated in places & also occasionally runs jerky. When playing the SVCD on my PC it is fine. This has happened with several movies but strangely not all.

My DVD player is the JVC XV2 which is supposedly fully SVCD compliant & it is only 2 months old. I'm using Nero 6. I've tried the following things in an effort to resolve the problem but with no success:

-- burn SVCD at slow speed
-- unchecked "create standard compliant CD" in Nero
-- tried other makes of media
-- burnt "cue" files & straight mpeg2 files


Does the quality of the downloaded movie affect how it plays on a DVD player more than on a PC (surely not ??)


I'm beginning to pull my hair out now so would greatly appreciate some advice


cheers

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KYUSS

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Does the quality of the downloaded movie affect how it plays on a DVD player more than on a PC (surely not ??)
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i most certainly does m8..........

it all depends on how its been ripped to divx/xvid
the frame rate......the frame rate you convert to.
whether its PAL/NTSC and whether you convert it to NTSC/PAL ect.
 
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saxovtr

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Must admit I did really think it would make a difference. So to partly resolve my problems then I could stick to downloading high quality files - over 1gb. The movies I've mainly had trouble with have been around 650mb. Think I may also try another change of media as it does seem to be one of the common causes of SVCD problems -- any suggestions on media type ??


There must be quite a few people out there who have these problems too - come on guys lets get "tips" or "past experience" posted so we can sort this thing out
 
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celtic_druid

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Princo have a pretty good rep for picky players (their CDR's that is, not thier DVD-R's) and are pretty cheap (around $0.40 AUD each).
 
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saxovtr

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KYUSS said:
is it a VCD or SVCD u made m8?

also have you tried making a CVD?

what dvd player have you got?
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Sorry for the late reply.

its a SVCD I've mad - I've done several, some have worked with no problems & others have been very "blocky"

Not too sure what a CVD is - not come across that

My DVD player is a JVC HRxv2 (combined DVD/VHS) - I've contacted JVC to ask if they recommend a particular brand of CDR/CDRW
 
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celtic_druid

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CVD is half DVD res. 352x576/480 instead of 480x576/480.

I would look at whether the ones that work are CBR, what the max bitrates are, framerates, stuff like that. Look for patterns in what works and what doesn't.
 
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saxovtr

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Here's the latest:

encoded an avi file (good quality as it was 1440mb for 1hr 30mins) using CCE set at VBR 4 pass. Plays no problem on the PC - excellent quality.

Burnt the film to CDRW (Packard Bell 12X 700mb @ 10x burn speed) - film becomes "blocky" about 3/4 way through when played on the DVD player, becomes unplayable eventually.

Then burnt the same film to CDR (Imation 52X 700mb @ 48x burn speed) - film plays on the DVD player without any "major" problems - still the odd "blocky" bit but virtually nothing.


However in the past I've burnt other films to the Imation CDR & they have been extremely blocky. When quality problems occur with playback on the DVD player it's always around 3/4 way through the film.

The conclusion so far is that:

1. My DVDplayer seems to play better with some CDR's than others -- but this isn't consistant as some films play fine & some don't on the same brand CDR.

2. The quality of the downloaded film doesn't always seem to determine if the burnt film will play on my DVD player - poor quaility films have played well whereas some excellent quality ones have given problems.

3. Changing the speed at which I burn to disc (using Nero 6) doesn't seem to make much difference.


---- Must admit this is turning into a bit of a nightmare, can anyone suggest how to determine exactly what the problem is - which are the most likely causes of this problem ??


thanks in advance


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saxovtr

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Success at last !!

Hopefully this is my last post on this thread as I think I've resolved the problem.

I've ripped one of the CDR's that wasn't playing correctly on my JVC player & burnt it onto another CDR (exactly same brand). This time however I set the burn speed to 2X & this seems to have solved the problem.

I now have 2 discs with exactly the same data on - one burnt at 10X which becomes "blocky" & eventually unplayable towards the end of the disc, the other burnt at 2X which works perfectly.

I've only tried this with one disc so far but am almost certain that this has been the problem


Hope this may help anyone else having the same problem
 
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AZImmortal

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it definitely sounds like a media problem to me, with the error rate increasing to high levels moving towards the outside of the disc. if u have a lite-on burner, u should scan the "bad" discs for C1/C2 errors, and if u don't, u can try using nero cd speed's ScanDisc and CD Quality Test.
 
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saxovtr

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I'm now certain its a media problem -- even between CDR's of the same brand. I'm currently using Imation - some burn fine & some not at all (with the same data !!), won't be using them for much longer. Can anyone recommend a High quality brand CDR / CDRW ??


thanks


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amadeooo

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to saxovtr:
exactly the same problem here!
my best guess is that:
1. nero uses bad avi to mpeg encoder; or
2. this nero's mpeg encoder don't work correctly with avi decoders (divx, xvid etc.) installed in your system. NOTE: nero don't provide u with one, they just don't develop it. (if u uninstall all your codecs packages nero even won't recognize avi files).
we have to try other softburners or other codecs in addition to your's trying other disks.
so, as somebody sad before on this forum - life becomes more and more interesting!
PS: in one SVCD case it tried to lower bit rate (nero vision express - video options ) and managed to burn 50min avi file onto 80min cdrw with perfect result. so u may wanna experiment wth bit rates.
goodluck
 
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saxovtr

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I've tried another 2 avi's over the past couple of days with improved results, but the problem still isn't totally solved. Slowing burn speed to 2x or 4x definitely seems to make a big difference but I'm still not always able to burn to CD-RW discs without having "blocky" playback on my standalone. It seems the JVC HRXV2 definitely prefers CDR discs.
I'll be changing the brand I use soon though to see if I get any improvement. One thing I've also tried is an update to the "firmware" for my Lite-on burner - having checked their website the newer version includes some changes to widen its compability with CDR's so maybe this will help - I'll let you know.

I also emailed JVC UK to see if they recommended any particular brand of blank media to use with my standalone but unsuprisingly I've received no reply -- good job these forums exist !!!

Thanks for everyones input & I'll post again when I have any new ideas / solutiuons.

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amadeooo

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SOLVED! (at least for now...)
our problem is nero, do not use it for encoding/burning svcd! as some said here on the forum - nero suks, indeed. nero just haven't figured it out, too busy killing public serials.
i tried burning svcd with VCDEASY - absolute success, no tweaking/experimenting needed. all is done by itself. just follow this guide exactly word by word:
http://www.dvdrbase.com/showthread.php?t=15298

all hats are off for ChickenMan !!!
 
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