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Message: [QUOTE="woody, post: 2138, member: 4"]Hi Tony.Welcome to the forum!Most PC games released recently are Safedisc2.The protection uses 'weak' sectors that stops most writers from writing the disc information back properly.Only certain writers are able to write this information back correctly.This new Clone version is supposed to correct those sectors so almost any writer can produce working copies.A rule of thumb is ,if your writer can write (old Safedisc)it will now be able to write Safedisc2.So surely your Yamaha and Plextor can do the trick.Take a look <a href="http://forum.cdrsoft.cc/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48">here</a> for a list of games that use this protection (list will be updated periodically).[/QUOTE]