NEW CD-RW Drives and Soft from Liteon

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LiteOn plans to release 52x recorder at September!

LiteOn will announce soon a new recorder with the fastest recording/re-writing/reading speeds ever available. The new recorder will support 52x recording, 32x re-writing and 52x reading speeds making it the faster recorder even came in the market...
The drive is expected to hit the market around September, almost two months after the LTR-48246S comes to shops. The new drive (LTR-52326S) will use Full CAV (24X-52X) for recording & reading, while for re-writing (32X) speed, CAV is expected be used.

The drive will use MediaTek chipsets and will comply according to Orange Book Part III v1.0 that supports up to 32x re-writing speeds.

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LiteOn ready to ship LTR-48246S (48x/24x/48x) recorder!

LiteOn keep pushing both recording and re-writing speeds with new models. After the known LTR-48125W, a new recorder arrives shortly and gives a boost in the re-writing speeds up to 24x...
The LTR-48246S supports 48x (CAV) writing, 24x (P-CAV) re-writing, 48x (CAV) reading, SmartBurn, Smart-X and includes 2MB of buffer. The major specifications are the same with the LTR-48125W and the only difference seems to be the increased re-writing speed.

In order to write 24x, you would have to get new HS-RW media based upon different chemicals than the existing one. The new ORANGE BOOK PART III VOL.3 V0.5 descibes such high recording speed (up to 32X).

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SMART-Burn Media Checker v2.00 for LTR-48125x

Update/Info:
Works with the 32x, 40x and 48x LiteOn models

Download from: _http://www.liteonit.com/

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SOURCE: CDRInfo
 
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Has anyone seen THEIR Writer software anywhere - and particularly, anywhere to get hold of it?

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ChickenMan

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A LiteOn DVD-R writer is what I'm looking for. A 52x offers me nothing more than my 24x LiteOn offers other than saving a few seconds in burning time. Bring on the DVD burners.
 
FortiTude

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there isn't a big difference between the 24x and 48x ... cause of the time eating leadin/-out but the difference between the 12x RW all the burners had until now and that 24x RW writing is bigger and more important ! but a 24x/24x/48x burner would be enough !
FortiTude
 
dx

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I'm with ChickenMan...considering the huge drops in DVD media as of late, a LiteOn DVD burner would be nice! :cool:
 
cdorders

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One thing more: Is any drive, of the ones available on the market, capable of writing 9 GB on a single sided disk (although there are no media present right now)??? I say this, because I'm of the opinion that when such a drive will become available, the ones that write up to 4,7GB at a disk, will be wasted and no one will be able to get rid of them (assuming he will pay a fortune buying a DVD-RW)...
But if I'm a little bit out of date, please inform me if there is a burner that supports DVD Writing up to 9GB, because it would be an interesting buy/invenstment for me. For the time being, I would not consider buying a device that is only capable of writing half the capacity...
 
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joripe is correct.

The reason why is quite simple actually...compatability.

All current DVD players and ROMs are designed to read 4.7 Gigs per side and/or per layer. Doubling that capacity per side or per layer is possible, but it would render the DVD unreadable in any standard player.

Now there are professional DVD solutions out there that allow you to record dual layer DVDs (4.7 Gigs per layer), but they are way beyond the means of the average consumer (about $10,000 USD I believe).

In time though, there will probably be a comsumer solution for dual layer DVD burning. When that is...is anybody's guess. ;)
 
cdorders

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dxkim

All current DVD players and ROMs are designed to read 4.7 Gigs per side and/or per layer. Doubling that capacity per side or per layer is possible, but it would render the DVD unreadable in any standard player.
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There are many movies that are (factory) writen in 9GB discs. For instance the Region2 version of James Bond - The World Is Not Enough, Harry Potter and many others that are 7+ Gigs... I can read such DVDs perfectly at both my Pioneer PC-DVDs DVD-U03S (SCSI 6x32) and DVD-106S (ATAPI 16x40). So there must be a way and a device writing them. I believe that the 4.7GB is not a compatibility issue, but a marketing trick to spread the 4.7GB writers (and the cheap medias now), until the 9GB burners become available widely... Anyway, it's just only my opinion and how I see this. I'm a little puzzled sometimes with the market. Every new software version requires specific and newer hardware and so on. This mmakes me believe that DVDs of 4.7GB capacity are a marketing plan for all of us who want to buy a DVD writer right now. I prefer my CD-RW drives and my DivX movies at the moment. ;)
 
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Re: dxkim

cdorders said:
There are many movies that are (factory) writen in 9GB discs. For instance the Region2 version of James Bond - The World Is Not Enough, Harry Potter and many others that are 7+ Gigs... I can read such DVDs perfectly at both my Pioneer PC-DVDs DVD-U03S (SCSI 6x32) and DVD-106S (ATAPI 16x40). So there must be a way and a device writing them. I believe that the 4.7GB is not a compatibility issue, but a marketing trick to spread the 4.7GB writers (and the cheap medias now), until the 9GB burners become available widely... Anyway, it's just only my opinion and how I see this. I'm a little puzzled sometimes with the market. Every new software version requires specific and newer hardware and so on. This mmakes me believe that DVDs of 4.7GB capacity are a marketing plan for all of us who want to buy a DVD writer right now. I prefer my CD-RW drives and my DivX movies at the moment. ;)
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cdorders...
I appreciate your nice post, but you are misunderstanding DVD capacity. "Harry Potter" and "World Is Not Enough" ARE DVD-9 Single Sided, Dual Layered. They are goldish in color on the DVD face.

These disks use a two-layer process. This entails an efficient method of constructing a double-layered disc where the laser would read the first layer, then pass through a semi-transparent gold layer to read the second...which is positioned less than 1/2 the width of a human hair below it. This also upps the storage capacity to 8.5 gigabytes on a single side.

Now, I clealy stated in my last post that DVD's, "are designed to read 4.7 Gigs per side and/or per layer." Of course there are higher DVD capacities, but there are either dual layered or double sided. They are still MAX capacity of 4.7 Gigs per layer/side.

The following is a list that shows variations of DVD. SS/DS means single-/double-sided, SL/DL/ML means single-/dual-/mixed-layer (mixed means single layer on one side, double layer on the other side). Also notice that the DVD-#, gives its capacity (rounded off to nearest Gig) IE, DVD-5 is max capacity of 5 Gigs. Also note, that the "hours" mentioned use standard MPEG-2 compression as it's possible to put about eight hours of VHS-quality video or 160 hours of audio on a single layer.

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DVD-5 (SS/SL): 4.38 gig (4.7G) of data, over 2 hours of video
DVD-9 (SS/DL): 7.95 gig (8.5G), about 4 hours of video
DVD-10 (DS/SL): 8.75 gig (9.4G), about 4.5 hours of video
DVD-14 (DS/ML): 12.33 gig (13.24G), about 6.5 hours of video
DVD-18 (DS/DL): 15.90 gig (17G), over 8 hours of video
DVD-RAM (SS/SL): 2.40 gig (2.58G)
DVD-RAM (DS/SL): 4.80 gig (5.16G)
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Now doubling the capacity of a single sided, single layered DVD would DOUBLE the DVD spiral tracks to be read (ie, Double Density). To do this, you need a much smaller laser to read the information and laser carrier that would be able to move in smaller increments.

This was tried with CDR, BTW. Double Density CDR's came out on the market a year ago and was pioneered by Sony. The burner and CDR used a much smaller laser and laser carrier that allowed it to double its capacity. However, these discs were incompatable with current CD audio and CD-Roms. Last time I looked it was DOA...Compatability! ;)

The higher capacity DVD burners you are speaking about are DVD-9s (SS/DL). And yes, as I mentioned they are out there. But they are very expensive at this time.

Hope this answers your questions. :cool:

Edited 1:58pm...added the sentence about MPEG-2 compression ;)
 
cdorders

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Nice post! I didn't know all that stuff as I never searched thoroughly the DVD struction and layer thing. Anyway, now I know ;). My questions seem to be solved but there is one more thing: In order to create a 9GB movie copy, will I need to pay a fortune buying the Professional Burner? If it is so, then I would rather stick to my DivX movies for the time being. Unless there is another serious pricedrop at the cost of DVD burners and medias. I may consider then using DVDs for archival storage (applkications, programs etc) and for video of course... But I think that it would not be wise to buy a DVD burner yet, or am I wrong?
 
dx

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cdorders said:
In order to create a 9GB movie copy, will I need to pay a fortune buying the Professional Burner? If it is so, then I would rather stick to my DivX movies for the time being. Unless there is another serious pricedrop at the cost of DVD burners and medias. I may consider then using DVDs for archival storage (applkications, programs etc) and for video of course... But I think that it would not be wise to buy a DVD burner yet, or am I wrong?
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I just added something to my post that might help answer this. You could lower the MPEG-2 compression rate to store more hours of video.

About eight hours of VHS-quality video (MPEG-1) can fit on one side, but I can't recommend this as the quality and artifacts are annoying.

Lowering the MPEG-2 quality also can give you more time, but again the overall quality drops. But with DVD blanks dropping down to $1-2 USD in recent months...why not just go for quality?!

DivX is more or less a tweak of the early MPEG-4 codec by M$ and offers a very nice compression/quality ratio. Its still not DVD quality, but it does have potential. Sad thing is you have to get or make a specific kind of DVD player that is compatable. The homemade is basically a PC box and I think there is 1 or 2 esoteric manufaturers out there that have announced DivX/DVD/CD players comming to market. This may well change in the future as Hollywood is interested in the format.

So in the end...you decision all depends on the quality and compatability that you want :cool:
 
cdorders

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Ok then, thanx for your help. I own about 300 DivX Movies made by me and I wondered if it worths to keep encoding to DivX rather than buying a DVD burner. Unfortunately there are no standalone DivX players here in Greece, so as you said, the only solution is home made (PC) DivX players. I have to admit that the DivX quality is much better than the SVCD and VCD quality and smost of the times can reach DVD quality (2-3CD movies). But the cost paid for the 2-3CDs is similar to the cost paid for a DVD blank. But the DVD burner seems to be a little ovepriced for the capacity and compbatibility it offers I guess... ;) Thanx again buddy for your help ;).
 
cdorders

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Wait a minute, does the DC have such a powerful processor that can handle DivX playback??? That's good but is it sure that it will play smoothly any DivX encoded movie? :confused:
 
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