any body had more luck with nero 5580,i know its got a dvd movie option now but still gives me bad copies,nothing i've found gives fool proof copies of ripped movies,if the original is small enough to fit on dvdr i can rip it with dvd decrypter ad burn it with record now max 4, but thats the only time i can guarantee to get a good copy,and as for 4.5 gig and above i'm still to try it as all the transcoding methods are for to complicated and seem to o through to many pieces of s/ware.