MP3's to become illegal???

In a bill being presented to the Senate on Tuesday pushed by the RIAA, and backed by several key states, is trying to make the proprietry MP3 format illegal. The RIAA says it's because of the difficult nature of enforcing 'Digital Rights Management' or DRM within the compression algorithm. Their move is also backed by Microsoft and Sony, whom as we know have their own proprietry formats, such as ATRAC and WMA which enable enforcement of DRM.

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Hi trick1

Wonder how they gonna do that, cause mp3 is more widespread than drugs.Just how they gonna enforce that law???

Wonder if this is related 2 that silly draft law about making firewalls illegal???

The lunatics have taken over the asylum:(

BaNzI:D
 
i should change crappy to kick ass now that i clean installed XP and added 128(to the previous 128)RAM.....talk about your ZOOM!!!!!
 
Damn U makin me jealous now

Me really need new system:)

BaNzI:D

Ps yep winMe reallty Sucks:D
 
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faster yet

should change crappy to kick ass now that i clean installed X and added 128(to the previous 128)RAM.....talk about your ZOOM!!!!!

After cleaning SOME files/startup and defragging it will ZOOM but then a day later back to what IS. I think the computer hasa brain and when it knows there is memory it USES it and the wrong way.
 
Fools who?, I wouldn't put it past the FBI, CIA, NSA, MI6 whatever to try to ban firewalls. As for mp3's, the difference between them and drugs is drugs ain't free and they don't harm the big music studios.
In fact they do more business from drug users, remember Black Sabbath, Pink floyd, Led Zeppelin etc, smoking sh*t and playing heavy rock goes together like....two like things. :)
 
friends, i'm not flaming, don't misunderstand me,
only in doubt,
please give your opinion:

cracking a program is ilegal!!!

mp3 is not the same?

:confused:
 
impossible... mp3 is like cancer, cut it out and it grows back...

live with mp3, die with mp3... (or something better) :D
 
Hmmm Me a PinkFloyd & LedZeppelin fan....Does that mean im a Druggie:Did know Floyd's Keboard player smoked now & then, but i always thought the rest of the group were anti-drugs

As 4 Le Zep, well they got up 2 a lot of wierd things, or so we are told, but then again think of all the music that was created by artists out of their heads on various substances:D

or is it only when i smoke the lawn:D:)
Know U might think i fell 4 it, but me not that silly

Or am i??

BaNzI:D
 
There's no point arguing about that: everything that prevents the rich from being richer is illegal- either officially or unoficially.
 
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IMHO at the end of day I would take a guess that everyone has copied some software or at the very least installed some software using a disk that doesn’t belong to them, none of us are saints. Cracked software, keygens, patches, etc will always be around, the guys that make these things I presume see it as a challenge and not a way of getting back at the software developers.
What I have never understood is when you obviously have some real talent instead of the software developers employing these people they often end up being prosecuted. Case in point that guy who cracked the DVD protection. I say ‘guy’ but when he cracked it he was only 15 years of age and did it not for malicious reasons but simply to allow him to view DVD’s on his computer. Now that is one hell of a talented person but he ends up in jail for what he did. Instead of locking him up for however many years, why didn’t the company who design the DVD protection give this guy a job. He is obviously very clever. I think his name if my memory serves me correct is Jon Lech Johanson.

As for MP3’s and Kazaa. I use Kazaa all the time but when you look at it, I can’t understand how Kazaa can get away with what they do. Not only do they give the world the ability to share files, you can specify what kind of files you want to search for, whether it be a song or a document or software. It seems very blatant to me but I use it and I’m glad it exists.
When it comes to MP3’s, one way of looking at it might be like this, a point a friend of mine brought up in a conversation. When a music CD is ripped and converted to MP3 format it is not a 1:1 copy of the original. There are slight differences in the waveform, not enough to make the MP3 audio sound different when you listen to it but technically speaking it is not a digital copy of the audio CD. Therefore if your MP3 copy, ripped directly or downloaded from a P2P program, is not digitally the same as the original, how can it a copy. The only similarities between the original audio CD and the ripped MP3 copy is the sound coming out of your speakers and not the digital footprint.

I can understand the software developers being a bit p!$$ed off at people getting a full blown copy of their hard work but they haven’t paid of it. If a totally new format was introduced, maybe even working on a totally new drive system, if it was common knowledge this format was introduced because it prevents copies being made, then no-one is going to purchase this new system. The people who make CD burners and the people who sell blank CD-r(w)’s are happy, as because of the boom in sales, they have no doubt made a lot of money but with such a huge success there will always be a way of using this equipment for what is technically illegal uses. If you only used your CD burner to make copies of what you can legally make copies of, well I don’t know about you but I know I wouldn’t get through a spindle of 50 blanks as quick as I do. There would be no copying software you don’t own, ripping DVD’s you don’t own (Blockbusters, etc), copying audio CD’s you don’t own……etc….etc.

They have to take the good with the bad, as I would take a guess that at least 70% of blank CD-r’s that are sold are used to make illegal copies of things. You don’t hear them complaining, saying you shouldn’t use their product to make illegal copies.

I’m not sure what the answer is but I would say that when it comes to MP3’s it’s a victim of it’s own success, high quality with small file size. When ever one song is obtained via Kazaa and not purchased then yeah, the music people are losing out but I doubt they will go out of business. “Oh no, we’ve only made 1.2 billion dollars this year instead of the normal 2.4 billion thanks to Kazaa and those damn MP3’s”
They still sell $h!t loads of CD’s. For a birthday present you don’t want to give someone a burnt CD, you’ll want to give them the original. You may buy the original because you want the packaging it comes in.

At the end of the day, if they didn’t want people to have a 700Mb storage medium, capable of copying not only audio but data CD’s and more recently ripped DVD’s…..then they shouldn’t have introduced it to the general public. But they did and they are happy to count up the cash when it rolls in from sales of burners and blank disks. I have no doubt the price of DVD burners and the blank media will continue to fall. Are they going to be complaining about that when it becomes more and more popular??

Just my point of view.

….DreeM :)
 
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DREEMTHEEF

I agree with Ur points completly.If i rem right, just like with audio tapes the record industry gets a piracy levy charge from every cdr sold.So for all the money they say they are losing, they make just as much back.Maybe if the stopped creating all the clone bands & one hit wonder's & concentrated on the people who make them the most money.Ever since take that(grrr) we have had an endless supply of replica boy & girl bands.The industry spends a fortune promoting them, only 4 them 2 fade away(Hearsay any 1 or should that be heresy):)I dont know about any 1 else but if get a copy of a game & like it, i buy it, the same goes 4 software

Even though i have a legal key(bought) 4 musicmatch pro, but after a short while i had 2 block it from the net, cause every time it started it told me i had invalid key.Personally i think this is their way of getting us 2 constantly pay 4 upgrades, the thing i like the most was the super tagging feature, but thanks 2 this forum & it's members, i have found free software that does excatly the same job.

Just cause the music industry can't find a fair way of selling music online, does'nt mean we should all have 2 pay double.I rarely buy cd's now, not cause i use kazaa, but cause there is way 2 much crap out there.Besides, i rem when they first introduced cd's, they said they would cost the same as tapes or records, but guess what they cost more.If i like an album, i will buy it.

Just gotta say 4 an april's fools joke this has started a lively disscusion.Long may it continue.Im not afraid 2 admit i sometimes use hookey S/W, but if i use it a lot, then i be fair & pay 4 it

But i still think these industries have created this situation by charging 2 much for their products.I know it an old argument, but if they lowered the price, then there not be the incentive 2 use illegal means

I always thought sony was really hypocritical, they big supplier of burner's & cdr's, but then come up with various means 2 annoy the consumer's with their latest protections

But the thing that really annoys me the most is most games only run if the disc in the drive, some don't.I don't like having 2 hunt out a disc just 2 have a game.

Likewise this is just my view.

BaNzI:D
 
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dx

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Yes, a lively discussion indeed! But if you look at the link again, you will see it was just an April Fools joke. ;)
 
Yep i noticed that dxkim

I knew it was a windup, but had post a few points on how i felt in response 2 dreemtheef

Cheers

BaNzI:D
 
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