Incorrect HD space

Jola

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Hi
One of my partitions is 35gb and the total used space when I add it up is 24.74gb.
But the properties are only showing free space of 1.52gb.
I have emptied the recycle bin but cannnot find what is causing this capacity.
Can you help please?
Thx
 
doesn't matter whether fat 32 or the other nt... whatever that is... losing 10 gig is too much... you might really want to view your partition you might have another one in there not activated you don't know about
 

Jola

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Thx for the replies.
It is FAT32 but I don't know how to check the cluster size or if there is an invisible partition. When I installed the HD I made 2 partitions = 1 x 5gb +1 x 35gb.
Can you advise?
Thx
 
You're stuck with the 32 gig fat32 limitation of XP's format.....convert to NTFS by running this command:"convert [your drive letter]: /fs:ntfs" and you get the full discspace.....
Warning:NTFS is a much better filesystem that's much more reliable and has no file limitations,unlike fat32's 4gig maximum filesize,but if you don't like it,or don't feel comfortable with it,you can't reverse the converting to fat32 again with a command!
 

Jola

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Thanks Roadworker for the advice.
Can I assume then that if I were to convert a file which would produce in excess of 4gb, then XP would not handle it?
Cheers
 
Jola said:
if I were to convert a file which would produce in excess of 4gb, then XP would not handle it?
Not if you're running fat32......although a few programs can split those files automaticly when the maximum filesize is reached.
NTFS can handle them easily,that's why almost everyone who does video uses NTFS.
Ripping dvd's quite often results in files that are bigger than 4 gig......:)
 

Jola

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Thanks once again.
Does NTFS look different to XP? for example would I be able to tell I was running a different file system?
I also sequence audio and midi with Cubase - would the NTFS have a detrimental effect on that kind of thing?
Cheers
btw I found 7gb in the Norton Protected files in the recycle bin :D
 
Jola said:
for example would I be able to tell I was running a different file system?
Oh yes.....speedwise you will notice hardly any differences,but there will be less crashes or lost data...:D

I also sequence audio and midi with Cubase - would the NTFS have a detrimental effect on that kind of thing?
Probably not....I don't use Cubase,but I never had any problem with Wavelab...
 
Using "convert [your drive letter]: /fs:ntfs" will indeed utilize the full disk capacity, but there are a few things to take care of:
1. Before converting, defragment your drive.
2. Don't proceed if you have less than 10% free HD space.
3. The above conversion from commandline amounts by default to 512 bytes clustersize (no other options, sorry...), which should be a handicap for your system. The default for average NTFS partitions is 4KB, which should work fine. You have to use third party software to change your clustersize without formatting (Partition Commander, Partition Magic, Partition Expert... whatever you like, unfortunately none of them has a working demo).
In short, I wouldn't recommend using the above tip, unless you can borrow from a friend of yours a startup diskette/CD for any of the above programs and change the clustersize from 512 bytes to 4 or 8K.
Determining the clustersize is simple: create a very small text file (say 10-11 letters), save it and then rightclick it in Explorer and pick "properties"... The reported "size on disk" should be your current clustersize.
 
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Jola

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Thanks again for the replies but I am now a little confused. May I ask a few questions:
1. Is it common to convert to NTFS for video processing.
2. If I convert one of my partitions to NTFS can I leave the others as Fat32 without affecting my OS.
3. Is their anyway that XP can be persuaded to allow files in excess of 4gb.
4. Would it be a safer bet to cut the avi in two before converting to dvd.

My cluster size is 8kb.

Really appreciate your help.

Cheers
 
Jola said:
1. Is it common to convert to NTFS for video processing.
It's not "common", it is a must.
Jola said:
2. If I convert one of my partitions to NTFS can I leave the others as Fat32 without affecting my OS.
Of course you can- with no problems whatsoever.
Jola said:
3. Is their anyway that XP can be persuaded to allow files in excess of 4gb.
Sure they can: use NTFS! :D Or even ext2/ext3 filesystems, but there you won't have a recycle bin and you still have to use commercial software to access the partitions, so not worth it for a 2000/XP system.
Jola said:
4. Would it be a safer bet to cut the avi in two before converting to dvd.
You can find several workarounds, but none is too practical.
Jola said:
My cluster size is 8kb.
That clustersize should allow you the maximum capacity allowed by Windows for FAT32 partitions (32 GB), but not more than that. You can even find freeware programs which can format a partition larger than 32 GB to a single FAT32 one, but for some reason Windows cannot.
Your safest bet would still be finding a good commercial partition manager, and convert your FAT32 partition(s) to NTFS with 4K or 8K clustersize.
 

Jola

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Thanks a lot Scarecrow - I'm getting there now.
I have a separate partition already that is 15gb. I think I'll convert that to NTFS and do my avi dabbling there.
You've been agreta help.

Cheers :D
 

Jola

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Sorry to re-open this thread and I know I'm a pain and it may not be the correct forum but it seems to carry on from the previous posts.
I don't know why but I let Mainconcept continue to convert my avi and for some reason it happened - I got a 5.5gb mpeg file (in XP FAT 32) which appears to be ok, eg in sync, starts at the beginning, ends at the end.
Can I ask just once more before I quietly sit in the corner?
What on earth can I do with a file this size except watch it on a pc? Too big for a dvd and an age to process. Will something like burnatonce copy so far then ask for another blank dvd? Nero wont have it, asks for bigger disk.
I'd be happy to leave it as an mpeg over 3 dvd disks if it were necessary.
Thx again
Jola
 
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