Idiot-proofing

[fredthompson]

Rip and process a disc then rename the destination directory . Press the process button and DVDStripper crashes because it can't find a directory where the destination field says one exists, requiring a complete restart including re-ripping.

Idiot-proofing would be nice to prevent this kind of a crash.

Why did I do this? I was testing a split of a complex menu original and forgot to create a destination directory after re-naming the original one.

 

[fredthompson]

It would also be quite helpful if the VTS, VOB, and cell IDs were available in the pick lists. Also, a way to select a series of entires in the pick lists would be nice.

FWIW, I'm stress-testing with a disc that has 500 entries in the item list. It's not so easy to match filenames to the offset in the title list with that kind of data

 

[MackemX]

Thanks for the feedback and I can see your point but you can just click back and redirect the path to the new folder. If you rename or remove a folder then any program would crash if it didn't have a check for that folder. I'm hoping most will also realise that they must change the path in the program also

I know it's possible to upset DS this way and if it can be implemented to stop it then it will. I can think of quite a few ways to crash DS but I'm hoping most 'idiots' won't find them

did you not try to use the reload project option after it crashed?

to reload when it crashes, restart DVDStripper and then reload the project you just saved. The NEXT button is faded but it will then show the destination path is missing also. When you specify the new path it will then allow you to click NEXT. Click NEXT and your project will be back to normal. It works because I have just tried it with a quick test

as for the listing of the items, the ID's were taken out as the figures would confuse people ore than they would help . The only thing we left in was the VTS number to aid with knowing which VTS the movie was in

I appreciate the feedback

Best Wishes

MX

 

[fredthompson]

This is very easy to idiot-proof. If the first action after the process button is pressed is path verification, it's accomplished.

I agree for simple titles removing those numbers is helpful. It's very difficult to count offsets for large project, however. How about making the display switchable with a default setting of "off"?

 

[fredthompson]

Actually, just an added column to show count with the VTS to the right of the VTS column would be sufficient. If you know what to look for, the rest of the information is already in the display. This would keep it looking clean and it wouldn't be harmful to people who aren't familiar with it.

 

[MackemX]

This is very easy to idiot-proof. If the first action after the process button is pressed is path verification, it's accomplished.

I agree for simple titles removing those numbers is helpful. It's very difficult to count offsets for large project, however. How about making the display switchable with a default setting of "off"?[/
Actually, just an added column to show count with the VTS to the right of the VTS column would be sufficient. If you know what to look for, the rest of the information is already in the display. This would keep it looking clean and it wouldn't be harmful to people who aren't familiar with it.

I don't fully understand what you mean , can you explain a little more please?

 

[fredthompson]

Those are 2 different suggestions/requests.

The first is simple; test for the presence of a path before accessing it. Should be simple enough.

The second is a request for an additional column in both the Item List and Menu Item List scrollboxes. This column goes to the right of the existing columns and displays ascending numbers withing each VTS which correspond to the element number as used in the filenames in the temporary directory.

Does that help explain?

 

[MackemX]

the 1st does sound easy, but doesn't everything. I'll see what TMG can do about it as I'm sure he can squeeze the time to do it from somewhere

I decided on taking the extra columns out as I didn't like the fact it may confuse the majority of users even more than it already does

this is an older version below. Maybe we will put it back in but again it's not top priority at the minute

 

[zarish]

perhaps just add it back as a switched option. More information is always better for some.

 

[fredthompson]

That's what I suggested above.

I've just finished splitting another 800-item disc. This kind of information can save huge amounts of time on complex discs. To find the proper parts on this title, I had to use VirtualDub-MPEG2, DVDShrink and PowerDVD in addition to DVDStripper. In this case, the VTS displayed by PowerDVD wasn't always the same as the data item ID created by DVDStripper. Apparently, DVDStripper doesn't show the number by internal counter of the IFOs, it does it by the filename from the DVD.

Group selection in those pick boxes would sure be nice, too...

 

[MackemX]

To find the proper parts on this title, I had to use VirtualDub-MPEG2, DVDShrink and PowerDVD in addition to DVDStripper.

Do you not fully expand the VTS title selection window?

I know some titles can have many items but the VTS selctor lists the titles in the same way as Shrink and allows you to look at the related items within that title. Whatever you untick in the VTS will automatically be deselected in the item list,. There is no real need for using the selective items in the movie side of the main GUI unless. Unticking the top box in the VTS selector and then adding titles is the best way to use the Title Selector

I do know menu's can be a bit tricky as it doesn't have the same title selection but I've seen DVDShrink have a list as long as you arm for some menu's also , but not as many as DS though

 

[zarish]

2 more requests along this front.

1). How about another column to help manage understanding between the main program window and the VTS Selector?

2). Is it possible to make both windows accessible at the same time? Currently when the VTS Selector is open you can not get to the main window. Actually come to think of it this one would probably be more useful than suggestion 1 and could easily delay the need for suggestion 1 (not remove just significantly delay).

Just 2 things I was thinking while getting my feet wet.

 

[fredthompson]

Do you not fully expand the VTS title selection window?

Do you mean the VTS selector? That only works for stripping. Most of the time I'm splitting, throwing away only previews and nag screens.

I do know menu's can be a bit tricky as it doesn't have the same title selection but I've seen DVDShrink have a list as long as you arm for some menu's also , but not as many as DS though

Oh, I didn't say either was perfect. With the real complex titles, it's awkward no matter what. One of the frustrating things is figuring out where things really exist can be a real bear. Somtimes, DVD players show info on their display which doesn't match the actual file names. The last title I worked on had 871 entries. It was one difficult mess.

 

[MackemX]

Do you mean the VTS selector? That only works for stripping. Most of the time I'm splitting, throwing away only previews and nag screens.

the next version has the VTS for splitting also

Oh, I didn't say either was perfect. With the real complex titles, it's awkward no matter what. One of the frustrating things is figuring out where things really exist can be a real bear. Somtimes, DVD players show info on their display which doesn't match the actual file names. The last title I worked on had 871 entries. It was one difficult mess.

yep, it can get a bit messy but hopefully the VTS splitter option will make things easier