Forced Subs

[Emmaxxx]

Hi
I mainly use DVD2SVCD to encode my movies and Maestro for the authoring.
I've noticed with some movies I've backed up, the forced subs haven't displayed, like with Die Another Day and Sum Of all Fears....not much fun when you don't know what the foreign guys are saying.
My question is, is there a prog that will tell me if a movie has forced subs, and how can I import them into the authoring process?

Thanx
Emma
xxxx

 

[ChickenMan]

I did Die Another Day a while back myself, what a pain in the butt it was. The English subs when they speek Korean is mixed into another subs thread, the very last English subs listed. You also have to click the "Locate all Subtitle" button in the bottom right corner of the Subtitle & Color Selection page. This will find many hidden subtitles and if you dont, then they come out black on black, like what you got. Then you need to MANUALLY (something no one wants to do today !) remove all the unwanted *.BMP files as well as edit the small txt file. The ones you want are all less than 91kb long and all the ones you dont are either 91kb or greater. (I think that was what it was).

Cant help you with Sum of All Fears, but probably similar.

 

[Emmaxxx]

Sorry for my late reply CM, been on my hols and other things cropped up.

When it comes to subs, I really havent got a clue,(clueless and blonde) where to start. I've only ever tried once with DVD2SVCD and ALL of the subs were in my encoded m2v video file....not what I wanted.

How do I rip subs as BMP's?
Then, once the 'forced' subs have been singled out from the normal subs, how then do I import these into the authoring process?

Sorry to be such a burden on you.

Luv
Emma
xxx

 

[ChickenMan]

Hope you enjoyed the hols and that it wasnt to hot for you.

Have a read of the DVD to DVDR Tutorial, in particular Note 2 near the bottom, there it explains how to rip the Subs out in Maestro format. These then can be imported into Maestro when you author it.

The essential subs (when alien or foriegn lang. is spoken) is about all I ever need so I tend to permanently include those when in DVD2SVCD as I would never want them turned off.

 

[Emmaxxx]

Tricky one this, not to mention time consuming to manually remove unwanted BMP's. Unfortunately I found the size is not a way of identifying forced subs.....the size depends on the number of words per title. Less than 91kb tend to be "Hi", "No" etc.
Tried subresync to identify forced subs, but this didn't seem to work for 'Sum Of All Fears'
You mentioned including subs in DVD2SVCD, I see with Build 2 'forced' can be selected.....does this work?

Thanxxx

 

[ChickenMan]

You mentioned including subs in DVD2SVCD, I see with Build 2 'forced' can be selected.....does this work?

Thanxxx

I've just noticed the same myself but I've yet to try it out as not many of my DVD's have subs that I need. Just dacked up LOTR TT and the "alien" subs are just there in the last sub's track, about 42 of them in all if I can remember.

Give the Forced Subs option a go, I await your feed back.

 

[Emmaxxx]

Tried last night to no avail, although DVD2SVCD was clearly ripping the subs at start up, nothing appears in the 'subs' folder. Maybe it's the way I set it up, just entered English as Lang1 and left everything by default. Wasn't sure if Y-Pos should be set to 576 for pal?
As explained in my other thread, when selecting 'preview', DVD2SVCD just closes.
Also have LOTR TT, but without those Alien subs .
A nice prog would be very useful to identify such forced subs, was hoping for this with subresync but no success with Sum Of All Fears (full Rip). So looks like a case of importing the .son file into Maestro and manually selecting the alien ones as forced ......lets just hope they're in sync LOL
Hope you have better luck CM

MXXX

 

[celtic_druid]

Couldn't you just use Subrip with force subs only enabled?

 

[Emmaxxx]

Tried that.....wouldn't even produce any BMP's.
Maybe it's just this film ??

Have you had success ripping forced subs with subrip?