DVd Decrypter vs. Smart Ripper

[Shoebedobedoo]

I was in the process of making an SVCD and I was using a Matshita (Panasonic) SR-8586 DVD-Rom to rip Erin Brockovich (vobs) to my hd. This DVD-Rom has it's troubles reading Safedisc(Macrovision) and Smart Ripper failed to rip the vobs to my hd. I then tried VStrip, which is included with DVD2SVCD, and that failed as well. I installed the latest DVD Decrypter and to my amazement, this prog did the job. It took over 3 hours but this was the fault of my lame Matshita DVD-Rom. I like the many options on the latest DVD Decrypter and believe DVD2SVCD should eliminate VStrip and add DVD Decrypter

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

I have yet to find a dvd that smartripper cannot rip (region 2 ).
I dont use the internal ripper in dvd2svcd unless I have to have the original chapters.
Smartripper with stream processing and a liteon dvd-rom has never let me down yet.
But as long as u get uncorrupted vob files on your hdd who cares.
Region 1 , I have no experience with and know nothing about!

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

DVD Decrypter, my choice

DVD drives play a major role ripping DVD's to your hd(processor, memory, and hd as well). My Toshiba SD-M1502 along with Smart Ripper has yet to fail me But after my experiment with my other DVD-Rom (Matshita), I find DVD Decrypter to be the better program

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

I think its your dvd-rom.
I did erin brockovitch with smartripper no problem.
Dont blame the software if its hardware.
This is like the "best burning software" discussion.
It depends totally on what hardware/software combination.
Maybe dvddecrypter is the best ripper for matshita dvd-roms, but most people seem to be getting lite-ons these days anyway.

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

Of course it's the DVD-Rom. I just literally proved by using a "generic" DVD-Rom that can't read Safedisc worth a crap that DVD Decrtpter has the edge over Smart Ripper I already stated my other DVD-Rom (Toshiba SD-M1502) has NO problems reading Safedisc DVD protection. DVD Decrypter has many more options than Smart Ripper, and gets the job done in a hurry. This program also updates often. When is the last time Smart Ripper updated? I honestly believe this program will be integrated with DVD2SVCD soon (I hope), because it's a much better program

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

smartripper does not need to be upgraded as its working fine.
What extra feature does dvddecrypter have that gets the job done better/faster?

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

Why don't you download from our main website and see for yourself dave? It frustrates me when people won't test other programs and tell me the program they are currently using is just as good Only way to find out is to test, test, test...
I'll swear on a dime if ChickenMan or shadow_phantom recommended this prog over Smart Ripper, forum members would switch to DVD Decrypter, lol

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

All u have said is that its better with some poor dvd-rom.
U said it had extra features over smartripper.
I dont need another ripper on my system.
U r recommending it so back it up with your reasons.
The only one so far is, if u have a matshita dvd-rom then its better, which is fair enough.
You say test,test,test, yet u mention only 1 dvd that has no special protection. No dvd is protected anyway as macrovision is the chocolate fireguard of CPs.

The reason that people listen to shadoe, chickenman and others is they can back their arguments up and dont just post a personal finding on a whim.
It is not helpful to just say this prog is better than that, when its a particular (in this case totally inadequate) drive u r talking about.
Respect is earned and not given.

If u have suggestions about dvd2svcd (an excellent program) then visit doom9 and post them there.

I think we have to agree to disagree on this one.
No offence meant.

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

Yes, we do disagree dave on this issue. Eliminate my Toshiba DVD-Rom and I would have NEVER been able to rip Erin Brockovich to my hd using Smart Ripper. Remember, not everyone has a LiteOn or Toshiba to get around Macrovision. So in essence, I proved DVD Decrypter is the better program for "any" person trying to rip Macrovision DVD protection. No DVD is protected? Macrovision put their protection on DVD's BEFORE pc games to stop pirating software. If Smart Ripper works for you, then so be it. I recommend DVD Decrypter over Smart Ripper simply because Smart Ripper failed, and DVD Decrypter did the job

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

If the drive is not upto the job then I recommend binning it.
A new liteon can be bought for £30/40 . The price of 2 dvds.
If your serious about ripping then use the correct tools for the job.

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

DVD Decrypter ripped with success, Smart Ripper FAILED!

dave,
You've missed the whole point here. I simply stated using a "generic" DVD-Rom I was able to rip Erin Brockovich with DVD Decrypter because Smart Ripper failed to do the job. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth nor do I have extra cash to run to the local pc store and grab a LiteOn. People trying to backup new pc games do nothing but waste money because they had to buy a Philips when Safedisc 2.0(Command&Conquer Red Alert 2) came out. Then when Safedisc 2.4 come along, people had to get a LiteOn.
LiteOn's are having some problems backing up the latest SecuROM3 *new* protection found on Warcraft III& Neverwinter Nights, and people are rushing to buy the Asus 40/48x to get around that. I don't need to waste money buying another DVD-Rom when DVD Decrypter did the job. In short, Smart Ripper failed to do the job, DVD Decrypter ripped with success. What's my point? People who own "generic" DVD-Roms and they wan't to backup a DVD using DVD2SVCD, use DVD Decrypter, it WON'T fail you No need buy another DVD-Rom (yipee)

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

If u can afford to buy the latest pc games to copy them then u can afford a liteon.
Macrovision is just as piss poor as its always been.
If your dvd cant rip that then its total crap.
There isnt a politer way of putting it.

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

If u can afford to buy the latest pc games to copy them then u can afford a liteon.
Macrovision is just as piss poor as its always been.
If your dvd cant rip that then its total crap.
There isnt a politer way of putting it.

I don't buy pc games, I read at many other forums and what protection is on them, and what cdrw's can write with success.
Macrovision is the leading company that uses protection DVD/PC/Audio and updates often. (Safedisc 6.0) is out.
DVD-Roms aren't crap as long as you find the proper software to do the job(DVD Decrypter for example)
There isn't a politer way of putting it.

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

hmm.

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

Thanks for your opinion and feedback dave, much appreciated
No hard feelings here m8

Shoebedobedoo

 

[daveml]

No problem M8!

 

[ChickenMan]

Good to see a friendly conclusion to the discussions.

I have tried the latest DVD Decrypter and its finally catching up to all the features of SmartRipper. Prior to the latest verson it was not on par with the features of Smartripper. I really cant find it any better or worse than Smartripper as both work very well with both my Toshiba & LiteOn DVD-ROMS.

Shoebedobedoo, if you read my Tutorials you will see I recommend the use of SmartRipper but also say others can be used. You just use what works for you on your hardware, its totally up to you. I have been using SmartRipper now for a very long time and like daveml, have not found a DVD it could not rip correctly, thats R0, R1, R2 & R4 DVD's. Correction, there was one last year I found and the only program that would rip it correctly was good old CladDVD.

Also, there is no Safedisc copy protection applied to DVD's, they have ESS encrytion and Macrovision to try and prevent you from copying the DVD to HD & VHS tape, etc. Both of these are removed by almost all ripping software.

 

[Shoebedobedoo]

ChickenMan,
I'm glad that you agree that DVD Decrypter is just as good as SmartRipper, if not better. Sorry for the wrong name protection (Macrovision), but I knew some DVD's were Macrovision protected. All of us must consider that everyone who attempts to rip a DVD to their hd "might" have a "generic" DVD-Rom. DVD Decrypter ripped Erin Brockovich, but SmartRipper failed to do the job. I see a bright future for DVD Decrypter and maybe we might see this prog in your tutorials sometime soon

Shoebedobedoo

 

[ChickenMan]

ChickenMan,
I'm glad that you agree that DVD Decrypter is just as good as SmartRipper, if not better.......

Re-read my comments, I did NOT say it was any better than Smartripper.

 

[shadoe_phantom]

yes I agree with CM. It is not better, maybe as good. Both software might have a problem from time to time with a particular DVD. I have seen many complaints of people (especially with anime forums) not being able to rip properly with DVD decrypter, so they turn to SmartRipper.
So wiser for those who have both installed on their systems.