thanx for the links guys!!! my eyes are bleeding from all the reading among other things hahaa!!!! anywayz, i appreciate pointing me in the right direction. i'm probably going to try the shrinking method at first then try to put the dvd-9 (the big daddies or dual layer) on two different dvd-r's. by the way, is the loss of quality quite noticeable when you compress these movie files with dvdshrink???? lemme kno and once again i thanx thee!!!