DS + CCE Encode... Possible?

terminator911

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Hello there guys... long time backing up DVDs with millions of different software titles finally bought DS which is just magnificent.

One question and close this thread if it has been discussed before... I enjoy being able to strip as much as I possibly can with DS but on longer movies surpassing the 2:30 hrs I like to use CCE instead of DVDShrink or DVD2One to get better quality.

I'd like to keep the menu obtained with DS and also the movie encoded by CCE... would this be feasible, and if so, how would I go about putting them both back together with desired subtitles and AC3s?

Thank you,
Terminator
 
Hi and welcome to the forums terminator911 :)

you should be able to use CCE just as you would with a normal DVD before modifications and after processing the DVD with DS

I know it get's complicated with multi PGC's but I don't think it's impossible

there are guides around but I don't have any that spring to mind at the minute but maybe the other guys do
 

terminator911

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Hey there guy, thanks for the lonesome reply and the welcome... congrats on a great program. Anyway, guess will have to look around, have you heard of a tool called IfoUpdate? I've seen a guide that uses this tool along with DVD2One where the guy keeps the menu and the movie...

Thanks again,
Terminator
 

nwg

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I don't know if this will work but,

I have used DVD2DVDR with CCE. The last few versions (1.72 and up) allow some space to be left over for a menu. So strip what you want with DS and process the files.

Then check to see how much space the menu takes up. Load DVD2DVDR and take this amount of the 4.38GB limit. Process the film in CCE. Then just overwrite the film files processed by DS (they should be the same size). Then do a update VTS sectors in ifoedit.

Does that sound feasible?
 

terminator911

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Hey there... thanks for the reply.

Actually, I am using IfoUpdate to correct the VTS sectors... basically I strip out unwanted stuff with TitleSet Blanker and then use DVD2DVD-R to encode the main movie and replace original .VOB files with encoded ones and then run IfoUpdate which asks for original and encoded files to correct the sectors. So far it has worked like a charm.

If you prefer to use IfoEdit here's the guide to do it: http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/remux.html which basically uses the new encoded .m2v file and from it generates the .VOB files according to what the original is named then all you do is copy the menu files over to that directory.

Thanks
 
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nwg

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terminator911 said:
Hey there... thanks for the reply.
Actually, I am using IfoUpdate to correct the VTS sectors... basically I strip out unwanted stuff with TitleSet Blanker and then use DVD2DVD-R to encode the main movie and replace original .VOB files with encoded ones and then run IfoUpdate which asks for original and encoded files to correct the sectors. So far it has worked like a charm.
So, I had the right idea. I will keep your method in mind and try it.
 

terminator911

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nwg
Right...

Follow this guide... jump to step 5 which tells you exactly how to do it.
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/ra-guide.htm

Once you've encoded the movie delete the orignal VOBs which you decrypted from original DVD (VTS_xx_xx.VOB but leave VTS_x_0.vob as thats your menu). Then rename your encoded movie (VTS_0x_xx to VTS_0x_xx to match original) but again, don't do anything to VTS_x_0.vob... put them in the original rip folder. It doesn't matter if original VTS used to go up to VTS_x_10 but now only goes to VTS_x_5.

Now run IfoUpdate and point to original VTS_x_0.vob and encoded VTS_x_0.vob so that it can update pointers. (Basically points to menu VOBs which contain the pointer information)

Thats it
Terminator
 
I'm sure you can batch process using CCE and I have known a method on how to use CCE on the full DVD and rebuild it in a similar way to using DS right from the start

it's just a shame the guys 'in the know' couldn't help me program it :(

I also know how to use DVDDecrypter and Ifoedit and rip/strip direct from a DVD including audio/subs but again I hit a brick wall with volunteers for programming

actually there's quite a few things I know as I've learnt so much more since starting DS. If I could program then we'd have had it ages ago :D

oh well it's sad but true :(
 

terminator911

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MackemX HHHMMMMM that would be great man, too bad those guys don't want to help you.

By the way, what programming language do you use to generate your programs? C++>?

Auf wiedersehein,
Terminator
 
terminator911 said:
MackemX HHHMMMMM that would be great man, too bad those guys don't want to help you.
yep, big shame as I know it can be done as I've done it manually. There are guys out there that can do it and so much more :(

terminator911 said:
By the way, what programming language do you use to generate your programs? C++>?
it wouldn't matter what language this wanted program would be in :)

we use either VB or C++ but I guess most developers use C++

I guess DVD9 will be around soon anyway so encoding wouldn't be much of an issue unless you wanted to combine DVD's etc
 

nwg

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I am having problems.

I have done underworld with CCE juts fine. I cannot get the IFO's to find the menus. If I used the IFO's created by CCE process it finds the film but no menu. If I use the IFO's from the original DVD, it find the menu but asks for VTS 01_6.vob. There is only five vobs for the film.

I have tried using ifoupdate but cannot get it to stop at VTS 01_5.vob
 

nwg

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Ok, I have done it by messing about with ifoedit.

I needed to put the output through shrink (keeping film to 100%) to reduce the menu by 100MB.
 

terminator911

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MackemX I was just curious as to what programming language you use... did those guys ever give you a response as to why they don't feel like giving you a hand with the project? It is indeed a shame my friend.

nwg What exactly did you have to do to fix the problem? Just in case I need to do it myself. Did you forget to rename the .VOBs from CCE? Remember that you don't need the .IFOs CCE created, only the .VOBs belonging to the movie. The only use the new .IFOs have is to use them with IfoUpdate to fix pointers. By the way, "Underworld" doesn't need any shrinking if you only want the movie and the menu. Are you using DVD2DVD-R with CCE?
 

nwg

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It didn't work after all. The film would not start on the menu. I tried it many ways with the IFO's. Shrink kept asking for vob files that didn't exist after using the ifoupdate software.

I just done the film on it's own. I am using DVD2DVDR with CCE.
 
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