My daugther gave me a commercial CD to copy it but up to now I have burn it with many programms and only producing garbage. The problem is that this Audio Cd has a built in player that takes control of the CD. If you brose it with explorer you don't see the regular track list but some other files. Sorry for my ignorance but I think that it needs some other procedure in order to copy it. If somebody knows something please comment.
Commercial Audio CD's
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I dont have it with me right now but Nero gave it as copy protected and Clone Cd after producing the image file when tried to copy it gave me a message that TOC on the image is not right. Actually there are two sessions on the Audio Cd one session with 12 Tracks and a second session with a 13th track.
zver
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If a cd is working in home stereo cd player,and doesent work in pc,also clonecd shoving vrong toc and 2 sesions are there instead of tracks,means is protected 99%.Dont have big experince with it,but i copied 1 of them for my ex girlfriend and it worked>What i would recomend is;go to cd freaks(lots of articles about audioprotection),try feurio or eac>>best both of them>>for feurio 1.64 has been said that can do!!!And what i did and worked perfect and recomending 100% is in the attacment,just be carefull what os you use;this is for 95,98,98se,me,all 9x sistems.Dont work for nt,2000,xp
Thanks for the help. I have to check the type of protection and I'll come back. Feurio does not support my writer.
With 12 Audio tracks and then one more track, sounds like a CD Extra disk to me.
Just extract the 12 audio tracks to HD as WAV files using EAC ( w*w.exactaudiocopy.de ) and burn back to an Audio CD using your favorite software.
Just extract the 12 audio tracks to HD as WAV files using EAC ( w*w.exactaudiocopy.de ) and burn back to an Audio CD using your favorite software.
I've tried this but it didn't work. It looks like the 13th track has information for the 12 tracks and somehow must be together in order for the CD to work properly.
What ver of Windows you running? If Win 9x, get the CDFS zip file above, unzip and overwrite the file in windows/system/iosubsys folder. Put CD in cdrom & reboot system. Then with explorer log onto the CD. If the 12 tracks are seen, just drog and drop them to HD selecting 16bit stereo. Hope that helps.
Guys thanks for all the replies. I'll test it tonight with EAD and come back again with more details.
zver
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Also,this will works better then anything but audio freaks are going to scream.Just put cd in regular cd player,unplugit,and plug in sound card>>>like you do with vinyl or tapes>>when you wanna record to hd>>>tryed with all audioprotections in canada>>>bulletproff safe>>cant go wrong>>and easiest.Push play,recordit 1 file done>>open in in soundforge if you wanna cut it on tracks,or use some shitware like audiograbber,lpripper,singulator>>to find the gaps for you This night i talked to my contrymen back home,and he confirmed that he ripped succesfully 4cds with feurio.Didnt try cdfs method,cose he is running 2000prof,and dont have another mashine!!!!So let us know whats happened
This night i talked to my contrymen back home,and he confirmed that he ripped succesfully 4cds with feurio.Didnt try cdfs method,cose he is running 2000prof,and dont have another mashine!!!!So let us know whats happened
zver
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To roadworker or somebody who knows !!!!!!!!!!
Back home where im from there are lot of pirated audio cds.They are copied with big pro sistems>>so they are copied succesfully with protection included,and logically cd is acting as genuine audio protected cd.They are playing on my stereo so i dont mine them,but if my friends asked me i would like to copy them????How i can know which protection is there,do i should go with feurio,eac,cdfs,direct sound cart input........is it any rule like,number of sesions,tracks,gaps,pregaps,indexs,markers,cose now i have access to protected cds in canada too,so i would like to be able to copy them all!!!!!!>>problem is that i have to give the cd back in few days,kind of borroving them,so i cannot afford to look long time for solution
Back home where im from there are lot of pirated audio cds.They are copied with big pro sistems>>so they are copied succesfully with protection included,and logically cd is acting as genuine audio protected cd.They are playing on my stereo so i dont mine them,but if my friends asked me i would like to copy them????How i can know which protection is there,do i should go with feurio,eac,cdfs,direct sound cart input........is it any rule like,number of sesions,tracks,gaps,pregaps,indexs,markers,cose now i have access to protected cds in canada too,so i would like to be able to copy them all!!!!!!>>problem is that i have to give the cd back in few days,kind of borroving them,so i cannot afford to look long time for solution
If player.exe connected to wmp.exe is the culprit your CD is protected with Macrovisions CDS200 which it sounds like it is. There will also be a hidden file in the dir called version.txt
This protection isn't very hard to defeat. If you are using cloone CD4 with an audio copy, make sure you tick the button "rip only first session" and clone will copy ONLY the audio tracks and it will leave the CDS session alone as we don't need it.
Another way is to download ISObuster www.isobuster.com and simply extract the audio files into wavs and reburn (rebuild) the audio CD.
This protection isn't very hard to defeat. If you are using cloone CD4 with an audio copy, make sure you tick the button "rip only first session" and clone will copy ONLY the audio tracks and it will leave the CDS session alone as we don't need it.
Another way is to download ISObuster www.isobuster.com and simply extract the audio files into wavs and reburn (rebuild) the audio CD.
sounds to me more like your more common multimedia album that works both in a stereo system and in the computer for added extras
duplicate with the "cd-extra" profile in clone cd
or with alcohol 120%
if worst case scenario that its uncopyable then the good old LINE in socket on the soundcard ...comes into use CRUDE but effective over 100% of AUDIO protections defeated worldwide lol
duplicate with the "cd-extra" profile in clone cd
or with alcohol 120%
if worst case scenario that its uncopyable then the good old LINE in socket on the soundcard ...comes into use CRUDE but effective over 100% of AUDIO protections defeated worldwide lol
mmx
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Na m8 I don't think it is if the files are "hidden" and the cd is uncopyable it isn't a typical CD-XA Mixed Mode
The actual bad sector is the compressed filed it's called YUCCA.CDS look and see if it's on there. I have defeated CDS100 and 200 using ISObuster and clone extract Session 1.
Anyway w/o knowing if you have those files on the CD I can't say for 100% certain it's CDS200 but that's the most common in Europe and Asia, but there are others.
Let me know if you are having trouble, no copy protection that you can't defeat EAC will do a FORCE READ of TOC INDEX soi you can rip it, there are TONS of tricks.
The only protections I have not been able to crack are the non-redbook audio like EAL and other freeward apps commonly used by idiots with clonecd (not pressed). That's a "Line iN" job
Thanks poacher, I was doing some further work and found his question and since work with copy protection for a living I wanted to help him out...when CDS300 comes out people will be using the "line in" trick a bit more as it uses MS Data Kit, I'll be getting my copy soon as the stupid forms are filled out.
Here was what MacroVision e-mailed me this week:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Macrovision® Announces License Agreement for Distribution of the Microsoft® Windows Media® Data Session Toolkit
Distribution will Facilitate Worldwide Deployment of Secure Music CDs that Enable PC Playback and Transfer to Portable Devices with Windows Media DRM
Santa Clara, California (ENTERTAINMENT WIRE) - April 23, 2003 - Macrovision Corporation (Nasdaq: MVSN), the world’s leading developer and vendor of content protection and security technologies announced today a license agreement with Microsoft under which Macrovision will provide worldwide record labels with the capability to design and produce “dual session” music CDs that contain both Red Book audio files, which play on traditional home and car stereos, and also include “second session” files that can be played and stored on a consumer’s PC and portable devices. Microsoft and Macrovision will work together to ensure great consumer experiences while, at the same time, providing a robust rights management environment for record labels.
By virtue of this agreement, record labels will have access to a comprehensive copy protection, authentication and digital rights management (“DRM”) solution for their music CDs from one source for worldwide deployment. Macrovision has agreements with replicators in North and South America, Europe, Asia, and Australia; and Macrovision’s CDS™ technology has been used to protect over 100 million music albums to date.
This license agreement allows record labels to enable consumers to make personal copies of music CDs while protecting content with multi-level security features that address practices such as unauthorized file sharing. PC-based playback of CDs and transfer to portable devices is enabled using the Microsoft® Windows Media® Data Session Toolkit, a new component of Windows Media 9 Series that enables media companies to create and deliver high-quality content via a “second session” for playback on the PC and other devices using Windows Media DRM. As media and entertainment companies look for ways to protect their content, the toolkit can be used to preserve a great playback experience on the PC and other devices. Macrovision’s CDS technology secures the “first session” data and also authenticates that the CD is in fact an original copy. Once authenticated, second session files can be played, stored or exported to secure portable devices.
“This is a ‘win-win’ for both labels and consumers,” said Macrovision president and CEO William Krepick. “Macrovision strives to create transparent content protection technologies that do not inhibit the legitimate ‘digital rights’ of consumers. The companies are creating a solution that addresses many of the content protection issues that are necessary for the survival of the music industry.”
“The challenge faced by digital content owners is how to effectively protect content from unauthorized re-distribution while also delivering great, value-add consumer experiences,” said Dave Fester, general manager of Microsoft’s Windows Digital Media Division at Microsoft Corp. “Macrovision technology and the Windows Media Data Session Toolkit represent a significant step in the ability to deliver music fans with rich, seamless access to their music and at the same time respect the needs of content owners.”
“Our combined technology gives CD consumers worldwide the secure portability of their music,” said Adam Sexton, vice president of marketing of Macrovision’s Music Technology Division. “Our solution, incorporating Microsoft’s technology, will ensure that the music industry will have access to best-of-breed technologies for first session copy protection, local authentication, Internet authentication, and a second session solution with the Windows Media Data Session Toolkit.”
About Macrovision
Macrovision develops and markets digital rights management (“DRM”), copy protection, and electronic license management technologies for the consumer software, enterprise software, home video and music industries. For the past 15 years, Macrovision has been the trusted partner in copy protection and rights management for the entertainment industry. Macrovision has worked in partnership with the leading content companies worldwide to develop and deploy technologies that serve the interests of both rights holders and consumers, delivering solutions which provide an optimum balance between effectiveness and playability. Macrovision’s copy protection and rights management technologies have been utilized on over 5 billion CDs, DVDs and VHS cassettes.
Macrovision has its corporate headquarters in Santa Clara, California, with international offices in London, Frankfurt, Tel Aviv, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Taipei and Seoul. For more information about Macrovision Corporation and its products, please visit www.macrovision.com <http://www.macrovision.com/>.Macrovision and CDS are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Macrovision Corporation. Microsoft, Windows Media and Windows are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the United States and/or other countries.
Note: This press release may contain “forward-looking” statements as that term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. A number of factors could cause Macrovision’s actual results to differ from anticipated results expressed in such forward-looking statements. Such factors are addressed in Macrovision’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov <http://www.sec.gov/>). Macrovision assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements.
# # #
Media Contact: Macrovision (U.S.):
Christine Cannon Adam Sexton Miao Chuang
iPR Media, for Macrovision Macrovision Corporation Macrovision Corporation
+1 (631) 776 0247 +1 (310) 920 9350 +1 (408) 562-8451
ccannon@iprmedia.com asexton@macrovision.com mchuang@macrovision.com <mailto:mchuang@macrovision.com>
The actual bad sector is the compressed filed it's called YUCCA.CDS look and see if it's on there. I have defeated CDS100 and 200 using ISObuster and clone extract Session 1.
Anyway w/o knowing if you have those files on the CD I can't say for 100% certain it's CDS200 but that's the most common in Europe and Asia, but there are others.
Let me know if you are having trouble, no copy protection that you can't defeat EAC will do a FORCE READ of TOC INDEX soi you can rip it, there are TONS of tricks.
The only protections I have not been able to crack are the non-redbook audio like EAL and other freeward apps commonly used by idiots with clonecd (not pressed). That's a "Line iN" job
Thanks poacher, I was doing some further work and found his question and since work with copy protection for a living I wanted to help him out...when CDS300 comes out people will be using the "line in" trick a bit more as it uses MS Data Kit, I'll be getting my copy soon as the stupid forms are filled out.
Here was what MacroVision e-mailed me this week:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Macrovision® Announces License Agreement for Distribution of the Microsoft® Windows Media® Data Session Toolkit
Distribution will Facilitate Worldwide Deployment of Secure Music CDs that Enable PC Playback and Transfer to Portable Devices with Windows Media DRM
Santa Clara, California (ENTERTAINMENT WIRE) - April 23, 2003 - Macrovision Corporation (Nasdaq: MVSN), the world’s leading developer and vendor of content protection and security technologies announced today a license agreement with Microsoft under which Macrovision will provide worldwide record labels with the capability to design and produce “dual session” music CDs that contain both Red Book audio files, which play on traditional home and car stereos, and also include “second session” files that can be played and stored on a consumer’s PC and portable devices. Microsoft and Macrovision will work together to ensure great consumer experiences while, at the same time, providing a robust rights management environment for record labels.
By virtue of this agreement, record labels will have access to a comprehensive copy protection, authentication and digital rights management (“DRM”) solution for their music CDs from one source for worldwide deployment. Macrovision has agreements with replicators in North and South America, Europe, Asia, and Australia; and Macrovision’s CDS™ technology has been used to protect over 100 million music albums to date.
This license agreement allows record labels to enable consumers to make personal copies of music CDs while protecting content with multi-level security features that address practices such as unauthorized file sharing. PC-based playback of CDs and transfer to portable devices is enabled using the Microsoft® Windows Media® Data Session Toolkit, a new component of Windows Media 9 Series that enables media companies to create and deliver high-quality content via a “second session” for playback on the PC and other devices using Windows Media DRM. As media and entertainment companies look for ways to protect their content, the toolkit can be used to preserve a great playback experience on the PC and other devices. Macrovision’s CDS technology secures the “first session” data and also authenticates that the CD is in fact an original copy. Once authenticated, second session files can be played, stored or exported to secure portable devices.
“This is a ‘win-win’ for both labels and consumers,” said Macrovision president and CEO William Krepick. “Macrovision strives to create transparent content protection technologies that do not inhibit the legitimate ‘digital rights’ of consumers. The companies are creating a solution that addresses many of the content protection issues that are necessary for the survival of the music industry.”
“The challenge faced by digital content owners is how to effectively protect content from unauthorized re-distribution while also delivering great, value-add consumer experiences,” said Dave Fester, general manager of Microsoft’s Windows Digital Media Division at Microsoft Corp. “Macrovision technology and the Windows Media Data Session Toolkit represent a significant step in the ability to deliver music fans with rich, seamless access to their music and at the same time respect the needs of content owners.”
“Our combined technology gives CD consumers worldwide the secure portability of their music,” said Adam Sexton, vice president of marketing of Macrovision’s Music Technology Division. “Our solution, incorporating Microsoft’s technology, will ensure that the music industry will have access to best-of-breed technologies for first session copy protection, local authentication, Internet authentication, and a second session solution with the Windows Media Data Session Toolkit.”
About Macrovision
Macrovision develops and markets digital rights management (“DRM”), copy protection, and electronic license management technologies for the consumer software, enterprise software, home video and music industries. For the past 15 years, Macrovision has been the trusted partner in copy protection and rights management for the entertainment industry. Macrovision has worked in partnership with the leading content companies worldwide to develop and deploy technologies that serve the interests of both rights holders and consumers, delivering solutions which provide an optimum balance between effectiveness and playability. Macrovision’s copy protection and rights management technologies have been utilized on over 5 billion CDs, DVDs and VHS cassettes.
Macrovision has its corporate headquarters in Santa Clara, California, with international offices in London, Frankfurt, Tel Aviv, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Taipei and Seoul. For more information about Macrovision Corporation and its products, please visit www.macrovision.com <http://www.macrovision.com/>.Macrovision and CDS are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Macrovision Corporation. Microsoft, Windows Media and Windows are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the United States and/or other countries.
Note: This press release may contain “forward-looking” statements as that term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. A number of factors could cause Macrovision’s actual results to differ from anticipated results expressed in such forward-looking statements. Such factors are addressed in Macrovision’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov <http://www.sec.gov/>). Macrovision assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements.
# # #
Media Contact: Macrovision (U.S.):
Christine Cannon Adam Sexton Miao Chuang
iPR Media, for Macrovision Macrovision Corporation Macrovision Corporation
+1 (631) 776 0247 +1 (310) 920 9350 +1 (408) 562-8451
ccannon@iprmedia.com asexton@macrovision.com mchuang@macrovision.com <mailto:mchuang@macrovision.com>
and HOW do they propose to defeat the LINE in on a stereo !? or cruder still a microphone next to the speaker !? im sure many of us old age people here did this ?!? ahem ....... what next will they BLOCK THE AIRWAVES with mindless white noise ?! lol i doubt it
Not knocking your knowledge here MMX you already pointed the line in trick out at the end of your post bud
They failed miserably with the cactus datashield and other audio protections!!
They Will Fail again !!!
Not knocking your knowledge here MMX you already pointed the line in trick out at the end of your post bud
They failed miserably with the cactus datashield and other audio protections!!
They Will Fail again !!!
HMMMMMMMM strange how its come to light again ZVER ?! but ya i can see it on the post dates !? someone must of added to it !? and its bumped it back up the list !?