Cinema craft or Canopus procoder?
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[[ ok, what make CCESP so expensive anyway? im a newbie to encoding so sorry for that. LOL. when you load it, it looks like a freeware program. really. ]]
What makes it so expensive is that it is very efficiently coded (in "Assembler", I am led to believe, but don't quote me on that), and that it has extremely detailed manipulation of variable bitrate parameters - unseen in any other software-only encoder at the present time. This is mainly an issue where you bitrate is at a premium - and this is usually for authorers who are burning to DVD-R, rather than companies who can afford to have their projects pressed on DVD-9s. Since we are talking about prosumer, rather than (Hollywood)professional, though, we can assume that the market we are discussing relates to users who will be burning to DVD-R. Thus, tight VBR manipulation is advantageous at times. To see CCE-SP's features, in this regard, check out Doom9's (based on RobShot's method) guide:
h##p://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce-advanced.htm
Oh yeah, and it's excellent quality and extremely fast.
I strongly suspect that we are about to witness yet another Cinemacraft price-drop, because there's no way they can expect potential customers to pay $1300 MORE than Procoder, which can do most MPEG encoding tasks to an acceptable standard, and at a *reasonable* speed (assuming you don't use the "Mastering Quality" setting. I expect CCE-SP to drop to about $1200 US, instead of the present $1999.
We shall see...
CDrZeus.
What makes it so expensive is that it is very efficiently coded (in "Assembler", I am led to believe, but don't quote me on that), and that it has extremely detailed manipulation of variable bitrate parameters - unseen in any other software-only encoder at the present time. This is mainly an issue where you bitrate is at a premium - and this is usually for authorers who are burning to DVD-R, rather than companies who can afford to have their projects pressed on DVD-9s. Since we are talking about prosumer, rather than (Hollywood)professional, though, we can assume that the market we are discussing relates to users who will be burning to DVD-R. Thus, tight VBR manipulation is advantageous at times. To see CCE-SP's features, in this regard, check out Doom9's (based on RobShot's method) guide:
h##p://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce-advanced.htm
Oh yeah, and it's excellent quality and extremely fast.
I strongly suspect that we are about to witness yet another Cinemacraft price-drop, because there's no way they can expect potential customers to pay $1300 MORE than Procoder, which can do most MPEG encoding tasks to an acceptable standard, and at a *reasonable* speed (assuming you don't use the "Mastering Quality" setting. I expect CCE-SP to drop to about $1200 US, instead of the present $1999.
We shall see...
CDrZeus.
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I have been useing "Procoder" for a couple of months now and though it has a lot of really cool features it"s plain Avi to mpeg2 encodeing isn"t as good as CCE sp 2.64, if you use the "Mastering Quality" setting the quality is as good but it takes forever to encode like on my 1.7ghz intel it encodes at about 6 frames per second on "Matering" setting and about 13 fps on regular one pass vbr setting....The reason that CCE is so expensive is that it is one of the only encoders that supports true "Multi-pass" encodeing and where low bitrates are concerned CCE will give some of the best quality available...