Can i use my harddisk as a source

mulder12

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Hello can anyone tell me if i can use my harddisk as a source in dvdstripper
I have some films on my harddisk i want to strip and put them on a dvd.
 
mulder12 said:
Hello can anyone tell me if i can use my harddisk as a source in dvdstripper
I have some films on my harddisk i want to strip and put them on a dvd.

Simple answer, yes, but only after making an ISO out of them and mounting them on a virtual drive.

HR

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I should add as @Dav88 said on eariler thread....
"Use ImgTool to convert to image and mount with Daemon Tools then use DVDStripper. "
 
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ablindog said:
"Use ImgTool to convert to image and mount with Daemon Tools then use DVDStripper. "
Not a real solution. The ISO format has a lot of limitations... if it didn't then native formats would never exist.
ISO is good for disks with a single data track, and hardly more than that.
 
@scarecrow
"Not a real solution. The ISO format has a lot of limitations... if it didn't then native formats would never exist.
ISO is good for disks with a single data track, and hardly more than that."

I'll disagree, it has been a 'real solution'. I can't say that it would work on every ISO but I can say that it has worked on over 30 that I've personally done.

HR
 
I've had no issues mounting ISO's but I guess the way the DVD was ripped in the first place may also be a factor. That's why it's safer working from the original source so you know the files are the way they were meant to be ;)

I don't know if and when DS will read from the Hard Drive but then the issues will be greater due to incorrect rips :(. As for priorities, it ain't at the top of the list at the minute
 

zarish

Member
I'm saddened to hear that is not on the list at least for any recently coming release in a basic (if your disc was ripped this way) form.

I personally have several discs that I have used DVDDecryptor to rip sitting on my HD. I was about to register DVDStripper. I had even posed this question in the comments field of the Paypal payment option. I am now uncertain if I will be hitting submit now. An inability to work with files on the hard drive is a serious and major shortcoming for software such as this in my opinion (yes, I know what they say about opinions).
 
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@zarish
I will sometimes load my PC with 5-10 DVDs Decrypted that I plan on working on later. It's a work-around having them in ISO format and does add 10-15mins extra to the entire process. But "a serious and major shortcoming ", I'm not so sure.

Just my 'opinion'
HR
 

zarish

Member
I'd say it is simply because it then requires you to maintain 2 to 3 copies of the same full size DVD on the system at a time while at various states in the transitioning from one phase to another. Extremely wasteful simply because a selectable path is not an option. Plus that extra time is wasteful, as well as the need to find, install, and buy yet another piece of software for creating and mounting ISO images from the DVD files which were ripped in Full without issue.
 
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zarish said:
I'd say it is simply because it then requires you to maintain 2 to 3 copies of the same full size DVD on the system at a time while at various states in the transitioning from one phase to another. Extremely wasteful simply because a selectable path is not an option. Plus that extra time is wasteful, as well as the need to find, install, and buy yet another piece of software for creating and mounting ISO images from the DVD files which were ripped in Full without issue.
The software tools are free for creating and mounting ISO images and anyone here would be happy to provide you with links to each. For the hours of time DS has save me per DVD I gladly part with 15mins if I feel the need to save the processing for later.
Maybe in part my opinion comes from having installed a couple 200gb hds once they became so inexpensive. If my hd were say, only 40g, I might feel the same as you.

Good luck to you!
HR
 
I know people will be inconvenienced but it's a very small minority as most just rip and process in one go. Some rip with DS then process later and I know people have files ripped already but most people won't have that many DVD's on their PC's and you could always stick the DVD back in the ROM I guess :). After you have done those DVD's then you can rip the rest direct so no real need for ISO's anyway :)

it's a small price to pay and it's your choice and I cannot force you to change your ways but at the minute, it's not top of the To Do list :(

as ablingdog says, it doesn't exactly cripple DS by not having this feature and it's not what I would class as a serious flaw or else it would be #1 on the To Do list :). I guess everyone has their opinons as to which features are important and it's trying to keep a satisfactory customer balance that is hard :(

DVDDecrypter doesn't work from the hard drive and doesn't plan to but I wouldn't think it inferior to Smartripper which does work from the HD :). I've had this discussion before so I'll leave it at that as I don't want to repeat stuff again from other threads ;)

DS would probably still have to rip the DVD again even from the Hard Drive, so you wouldn't really save space or time either :(

maybe in time it will be possible but in the near future I don't see it happening, sorry :(

p.s. Welcome to the Forums :)
 

zarish

Member
While I tend to disagree with you on this issue, I have decided to register simply due to the low loss cost should I dislike the product and the fact you are highly reachable.

I can only hope that eventually (sooner rather than later) support for other rippers (ones that can work better with scratched/damaged discs) will be added, or the ability to read from the hard drive. Personally I don't care which.
 
welcome to the club, I knew we would convert you ;)

You will obviously disagree as you are the one with the request. I think we would all love HD mode but it's something most can live without for now. It's on the list (it's been on for ages) but I cannot promise anything about requests as you ain't the first, nor will you be the last to ask about this feature :)

regards

MackemX
 

zarish

Member
Well, personally I like having control over the ripping process and knowing what the settings are.

And as I sated before there are the scratched disc to deal with. DVDDecrypter is great for most good condition discs but I find it to tends to choke quite often on scratched discs for me.
 

Arianos

betatester
zarish said:
....DVDDecrypter is great for most good condition discs but I find it to tends to choke quite often on scratched discs for me.
If DVDDecrypter chokes on scratched discs often, you might consider upgrading your DVDRom.
I have 5 permanent DVDRoms on a LAN, and occasionaly 7, and my 2 Laptop ones tend to choke on many DVDs, while my 'boxed' ones have no trouble on the same ones.
And from the boxed ones, the Pioneer 120 chokes more ofter than my Pioneer 105 (recorder)
Just yesterday, two Toshibas (laptop, one of them a DVD recorder no less) failed ripping a freshly burned DVD-R, while a cheapo Sony (boxed) did it in 10 minutes without any errors.
Conclusion: DVDRoms are cheap nowadays. I would get a 'slave' even for the purpose not to exhaust my recorder.
 
@zarish, you do know that when DVDs are played the player, hardware or software, skips errors to some extent and fills in the gaps with approximate data, right? When you're trying to read the data for a backup, the requirements are more stringent.
 

zarish

Member
Arianos said:
If DVDDecrypter chokes on scratched discs often, you might consider upgrading your DVDRom.
I have 5 permanent DVDRoms on a LAN, and occasionaly 7, and my 2 Laptop ones tend to choke on many DVDs, while my 'boxed' ones have no trouble on the same ones.
And from the boxed ones, the Pioneer 120 chokes more ofter than my Pioneer 105 (recorder)
Just yesterday, two Toshibas (laptop, one of them a DVD recorder no less) failed ripping a freshly burned DVD-R, while a cheapo Sony (boxed) did it in 10 minutes without any errors.
Conclusion: DVDRoms are cheap nowadays. I would get a 'slave' even for the purpose not to exhaust my recorder.
Actually I have several source drives and some original discs have a problem on all of them.

Drives available:
Toshiba SD-R2002 (Laptop IDE)
Pioneer DVD-304 (Desktop, SCSI)
Pioneer DVR-105 (Desktop, IDE, burner)

Also, DVDDecrypter chokes on 1 disc I have every time. Another SmartRipper does just fine with this same disc. From my observations it appears as though SmartRipper is better at handling read errors and re-requesting a sector read at different speeds.

Please note that's just my observation and experience. That's based on the fact that often SmartRipper seems to start at a slower speed and runs a lot slower if it encounters any errors for me from that point forward. DVDDecrypter tends to speed up again after getting past an error. This has been my experience on my system with my configuration, YMMV.
 
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