Any DVD/CloneDVD Test

[Laz]

After reading a few posts on other forums about this new gizmo I thought I would see for myself whether Any DVD was ANY cop at all.

System used

Windows XP Pro, 1.8 Athlon XP+, 512mb DDR pc2100, LiteOn Ltd-166S DVD-Rom reader

I chose the film "The Usual Suspects" (movie only with no menus) for the test.


Any DVD & CloneDVD result

Took 41 minutes 20 seconds to rip and process directly to a VIDEO_TS folder. No problems whatsoever doing this either and did not get any glitches at all with Any DVD and the end result was exactly as it should be.




DVD Decrypter & CloneDVD

Took 16 1/2 minutes to rip using DVD Decrypter. (Bear in mind this was a 7.5 GB disc and ALL files were ripped for CloneDVD to process (unlike Any DVD) even though I was doing a "movie only" disc.

Took 18 minutes to process ripped files using CloneDVD.

Total time of:- 34 1/2 minutes !!!

That's almost Six minutes quicker than using Any DVD !!!



Verdict

Don't waste your money on this!

$39 to use a prog that makes the whole process slower, not a wise investment IMHO and surely that was the whole point of being able to use Any DVD to rip OTF using transcoding software?!?!

I'm glad I bothered to do the test myself because it really proved to me the importance of an age old saying......... If something seems too good to be true, then it probably is!

 

[VIPER_1069]

A whole 6 mins "Laz" wow lol seems like a lifetime lol heheh but seriously DECRYPTER IS FREEWARE so thats a BONUS in itself

So it saves you about $40 on the price alone
if you have already purchased CLONE DVD then 6 mins longer is a costly experience



good review LAZ mate

 

[tiger4747]

Tried it myself

Well i decided to test this myself. Am using a LG 16x dvd-rom drive to rip the movies with.

1) Using anydvd 1.4.4.1 and clonedvd 1.7.1.1 I ripped movie only from a 7.5 gig dvd and saved it as files to a VIDEO_TS directory. Total time was 31 min.

2) Note: First i disabled anydvd so the dvd would appear as an encrypted dvd in dvd decrypter.

Using dvd decrypter 3.1.6.0 to decrypt it took 14 min. Then i had to start up clonedvd 1.7.1.1 and ripped movie only took 30 min.

Thats a total of 44 min.

A 13 min saving using anydvd and clonedvd. Not much but then when using anydvd and clonedvd i can start it and walk away from it and do something else when i come back i have a dvd all burned. I LIKE that.

The other way i come back and i've still got to start clonedvd after dvd decrypter gets done. Plus i have to delete the files that dvd decrypter puts on my hard drive. Not a big deal but to me its worth every penny.

Everyone has there own likes and dislikes just putting my 2 cents in.

 

[Laz]

Thanks for your report, well things look like they have turned around indeed.

My test was with (IIRC) the very first version of AnyDVD so maybe it really is worth another look going by your findings.

Once again many thanks for your response on this.

 

[daveml]

Wether anyone likes it or not is not really the issue.
$39 for something which should have been included in the conversion program is just a rip-off.
Ripping programs are widely and legally available for free....so why charge.
Dont give these losers your cash.

 

[woody]

LOL!it's smart from a businessman's point of view.Create a dvd software that needs an external ripper to work.

Then push a ripper to make your software work from another company you supposedly don't own. Two sources of income for one program.

Anyways, the plus on these programs is it doesn't take up hard disc space.But.. any of us serious about backing up dvd's have the extra space anyways.

 

[tiger4747]

decrypting programs

I agree that it should have been added to the program. But i can understand why it wasen't also. You only have to look at the the law suite against 321 studios (maker of dvdxcopy) to see what i mean.

Check it out here http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-1024566.html

So if the ruling goes against them the fair use law could be changed to make it unlawful to have ripping software on your computer.

 

[woody]

So if the ruling goes against them the fair use law could be changed to make it unlawful to have ripping software on your computer.

Too true!Soon it will be illegal to turn your computer on!

 

[daveml]

They are making themselves more liable to be sued by charging for the program.
The rippers are out there they are impossible to stop.
Unless u scrap the internet.

 

[sampei76]

thanks

Thanks for your report, well things look like they have turned around indeed.

 

[Knife13]

Well i decided to test this myself. Am using a LG 16x dvd-rom drive to rip the movies with.

1) Using anydvd 1.4.4.1 and clonedvd 1.7.1.1 I ripped movie only from a 7.5 gig dvd and saved it as files to a VIDEO_TS directory. Total time was 31 min.

2) Note: First i disabled anydvd so the dvd would appear as an encrypted dvd in dvd decrypter.

Using dvd decrypter 3.1.6.0 to decrypt it took 14 min. Then i had to start up clonedvd 1.7.1.1 and ripped movie only took 30 min.

Thats a total of 44 min.

A 13 min saving using anydvd and clonedvd. Not much but then when using anydvd and clonedvd i can start it and walk away from it and do something else when i come back i have a dvd all burned. I LIKE that.

The other way i come back and i've still got to start clonedvd after dvd decrypter gets done. Plus i have to delete the files that dvd decrypter puts on my hard drive. Not a big deal but to me its worth every penny.

Everyone has there own likes and dislikes just putting my 2 cents in.

Let me get this right
Using anydvd and clonedvd was 31 min total.
Using clonedvd 1.7.1.1 after dvd decrypter took 30 min alone.

So anydvd took 1min to rip? Or does it on the fly?

 

[scarecrow]

DVDshrink and Burnatonce 0.99a (with the pro-DVD hack, for non-Pioneer burner users) do the job very fast and PERFECTLY well and cost NOTHING... so why I should shed bigbucks over mr. Kastl's software?

 

[The-poacher]

Indeed the freebies work nicely tnx & cost U not a bean unless U donate!! <> which keeps the s/ware improving!!

 

[FutureProof]

Hello Laz. Sorry to dredge up an old post but as an old scientist and analyst - I'm accusing you of some simple experimental crime. Experiments must be replicable, supported by a hypothesis, assumptions clearly stated up front but the conclusion must be fool-proof. If you're trying to prove that igneous rock is the product of heat then it's OK to say that sedimentary rocks "suck" because they're laid down by other forces - these facts don't change, at all. If there's technology involved it may not be conclusive for long

There are also some confounding variables (some refer to them as lurking variables) that I can think of - for example, CloneDVD transcodes from disc to disk. DVD Decrypter doesn't have to transcode from disc to disk. So the experiment fails a basic test. Here's my result:

Shrek: movie only - no menus: 5,030,148 KB

CloneDVD 1.3.10.1 + AnyDVD 2.0.0.4 took 9':32" Transcoded to hard-drive ready to burn.

DVD Decrypter 3.1.7.0 10':36" Decrypted to hard-drive; still requires transcoding.

CloneDVD requires all IFOs as well as the main movie Video Title Set - it doesn't need all the VTSs. In Decrypter's case it wasn't even the whole disc just the VTS_01_x.VOB set and all the IFOs. The whole disc would've taken longer.

I used the latest versions of all programs as at 22 Oct 2003
Athlon 333MHz 2600+
2 x 512MB Corsair CL2 in dual channel mode
RAID0 Raptors
XP Pro SP1
GA-7N400 Pro F11

Any DVD & CloneDVD result

Toolk 41 minutes 20 seconds to rip and process...

DVD Decrypter & CloneDVD

Took 16 1/2 minutes to rip using DVD Decrypter. Took 18 minutes to process ripped files using CloneDVD. Total time of:- 34 1/2 minutes !!!

Verdict

Don't waste your money on this! $39 to use a prog that makes the whole process slower, not a wise investment IMHO

 

[Laz]

Hi FutureProof and nice to see you here.

As you yourself noticed the test was some while back and it keeps coming back to haunt me. (Maybe I should now delete it in fact) And to be fair to AnyDVD and SlySoft I should really find the time to re-do the test because....

1) After trying recent versions I wholeheartedly agree with you that it is now in fact very good and effective and I now rather quite like it.

2) CloneDVD has also improved quite a bit too since the first edition too.

Also AnyDVD seems to work very, very well in tandem with DVD2one and I have backed up a number of large episode discs in this way and although I feel Pinnacle IC 7/8 would have given superior results the time saved was considerable to say the least.

No - Let's be fair and praise where it is due, AnyDVD has come a long, long way since the first version and all credit to the SlySoft team for a little gem!

 

[FutureProof]

Hehe, I thought as much, you're a good bloke Laz. Leave it here, I think; Many people are interested in speed issues rather than outright quality. Ain't choice grand?!

Hi FutureProof and nice to see you here.

As you yourself noticed the test was some while back and it keeps coming back to haunt me. (Maybe I should now delete it in fact) And to be fair to AnyDVD and SlySoft I should really find the time to re-do the test because....

1) After trying recent versions I wholeheartedly agree with you that it is now in fact very good and effective and I now rather quite like it.

2) CloneDVD has also improved quite a bit too since the first edition too.

Also AnyDVD seems to work very, very well in tandem with DVD2one and I have backed up a number of large episode discs in this way and although I feel Pinnacle IC 7/8 would have given superior results the time saved was considerable to say the least.

No - Let's be fair and praise where it is due, AnyDVD has come a long, long way since the first version and all credit to the SlySoft team for a little gem!

 

[Laz]

Hehe, I thought as much, you're a good bloke Laz. Leave it here, I think; Many people are interested in speed issues rather than outright quality. Ain't choice grand?!

Yep, that's what it all amounts to at the end of the day really as I'm sure we both agree.

One man's meat is another man's poison and all that. But at the end of the day it's what each individual user is happy with. If DVD2one is your bag and you are 100% happy fair play to you! If it takes CCE & DVD2SVCD to do that trick then ditto.

The great thing that seems to be emerging from all this new transcode software is choice, and nobody with more than two brain cells can knock choice!

 

[VIPER_1069]

A note here .....is that TECHNOLOGY changes in leaps and bounds by week even .... so whats Blistering Fast this week will no doubt be obselete by NEXT week , possibly even a day or 2 later

 

[Blane]

I also tried the anydvd/clonedvd combination and found that the quality wasn't up to par. Every few frames I would see ever so faint macroblocks. I'd rather spend the extra few minutes ripping it to the HD with DVD Decrypter to have a better quality burn. It simply can't get good quality on the fly.