A Mystery with Nero--expert help needed

Monti1 · Jun 4, 2004

I have been having a big problem with Nero (and other disk burning utilities).

About two months ago, Nero has lost the ability to burn images. I can burn data and audio quite well, but I still can't burn the images. My settings are where they should be (?) and I still can't burn them. The drive has been cleaned, tried to image burn in older versions of nero and though the computer thought it burned, it didn't.

Mystery number two: I have made a data disk using 99 minute cds. Problem is I can't upload the data back onto my hard drive, yet other 99 minute cds I have loaded right up. On top of that, the disk info says I have over two gigs on the disk. So how do I get the info back on to the hard drive?

Any experieced hardcore Nero users (or other DB program users) have ideas, let me know.

PC-GUY · Jun 4, 2004

Welcome.

Well for anyone to help you they will need some more info.

So I say for a start post your Nero history log file. Just leave out your serial number.

Monti1 · Jun 4, 2004

..

Will do; give me a few minutes....

Monti1 · Jun 5, 2004

All right, here's the log:

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Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 7:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.6
Recorder: <SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B> Version: BT02 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.6
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 4096kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B >Version: BT02 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.6
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST320423A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B E: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 510MB (522740kB)
Free physical memory: 212MB (217384kB)
Memory in use : 58 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

4.6.2004
CD Image
2:55:36 PM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

2:55:37 PM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B running

2:55:37 PM #3 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 366
Image was written as DAO.
Image file name: <D:\New Folder\Dreamcast\WWF royal rumble.nrg>

2:55:38 PM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3198
Turn on Disc-at-once, using CD-R/RW media

2:55:38 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 244
Last possible write address on media: 359845 ( 79:59.70)
Last address to be written: 330824 ( 73:32.74)

2:55:38 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 249
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

2:55:38 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2107
Recorder: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B;
CDR code: 00 97 26 66; OSJ entry from: CMC Magnetics Corporation
ATIP Data: ?

2:55:38 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 410
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

2:55:38 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 (1 - CD-ROM Mode 2/XA, CD-ROM Mode 1)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 319125 (319125) = #319125/70:55.0
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_ULTRARAW_MODE2, 2368, config 0x4, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 319125 blocks [SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B ]
--------------------------------------------------------------
1: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 2/XA, CD-ROM Mode 1)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #330525 + 300 (300) = #330825/73:31.0
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_ULTRARAW_MODE2, 2368, config 0x4, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 300 blocks [SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

2:55:38 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B ] for write in raw writing (multiple sessions at once)
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x20; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 2:
1: TRM_DATA_ULTRARAW_MODE2, 2368/0x04, FilePos 0 355200 756043200, ISRC ""
2: TRM_DATA_ULTRARAW_MODE2, 2368/0x04, FilePos 756043200 756398400 757108800, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
319125 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
325875 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
330375 | 2 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
330525 | 2 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
330825 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

2:55:40 PM #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Caching of files started

2:55:41 PM #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4214
Cache writing successful.

2:55:41 PM #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Caching of files completed

2:55:42 PM #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process started at 8x (1,200 KB/s)

2:55:43 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2342
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

2:55:43 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2342
Verifying disc position of item 1 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #330525): write at #330525

2:55:43 PM #17 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 15268
StartDAO : CD-Text - Off

3:04:55 PM #18 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
<SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 319125 (4DE95h), lenght 6750 blocks

3:05:15 PM #19 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
<SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-208B > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 330825 (50C49h), lenght 2250 blocks

3:05:32 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

3:05:32 PM #21 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1699
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

3:05:32 PM #22 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (1,200 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.17, size=55808 bytes, created 9/19/2002 12:00:00 AM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 8/29/2002 1:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

==========================================================Hop that helps...

PC-GUY · Jun 5, 2004

Well I would install ASPIs and do you have a log for one that failed? Did you just do a re-install of this programor or windows cause this log says
3:05:32 PM #22 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (1,200 KB/s)
So I'm confused.

But you could install ASPIs and it could fix the problem.

Monti1 · Jun 5, 2004

PC-GUY said:
Well I would install ASPIs and do you have a log for one that failed? Did you just do a re-install of this programor or windows cause this log says
3:05:32 PM #22 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (1,200 KB/s)
So I'm confused. But you could install ASPIs and it could fix the problem.

Ah, but there's the mystery: According to Nero it's recorded, but when I reinsert the disc, it says it's empty.

Monti1 · Jun 5, 2004

I reinstalled the Aspis and attempted to burn yet another image; it still says it's burnt even though the cd drive says it's empty.

PC-GUY · Jun 5, 2004

Monti1 said:
I reinstalled the Aspis and attempted to burn yet another image; it still says it's burnt even though the cd drive says it's empty.

Now I know why all I keep reading is things like this:
"Nero 6 is full of bugs. Will wait till version 6.6.10.40 before trying
it again" Or people are say things like this:
"Nero 5.5.10.50 very stable."
Is it with all different brands of media?
Other then that Alcohol offers a demo for download try that and see if it has the same problem.
But may be someone else has an idea.

Monti1 · Jun 5, 2004

I had dl-ed that and it still wouldn't actually write the disc. I'm still trying...

Duracell · Jun 5, 2004

Monti1 said:
Nero has lost the ability to burn images. I can burn data and audio quite well, but I still can't burn the images.

try something like < Isobuster > to preview your images, so you can go sure your images aren't fakes;

I have made a data disk using 99 minute cds. Problem is I can't upload the data back onto my hard drive

again a case for Isobuster, use it's ripping/recovering feature now;

Greetings from
Duracell

Duracell · Jun 5, 2004

Monti1 said:
Mystery number two: I have made a data disk using 99 minute cds.

according to Feurio's homepage the Samsung SW-208 isn't able to handle 99 min nor 90 min media: http://www.feurio.com/Writerdb/frame_list_all.html

eddieb · Jun 5, 2004

It sounds to me that maybe it's a burner problem. If you have access to another burner, install it and see if it works. Or you could check for a firmware update and see if it helps. Nero has its own ASPI layer so installing another one probably wouldn't help. Also, try updating Nero. It'd up to version 6.3.1.15.

Monti1 · Jun 6, 2004

Duracell said:
according to Feurio's homepage the Samsung SW-208 isn't able to handle 99 min nor 90 min media: http://www.feurio.com/Writerdb/frame_list_all.html

I've been able to use 90 and 99 min discs for Divx movies and mp3s through nero with no problem but I'll try Duracell's suggestion.

With my first problem I've used 5.5.9 and the latest one with the same result...

scarecrow · Jun 6, 2004

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2:55:38 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 249
Write in overburning mode: FALSE
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That one means that you won't be able to record more than 80 minutes to any CD, and possibly not even read 90+ min. CD's properly (thru the Nero interface). Solution is enabling overburning.

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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x20; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 2:
1: TRM_DATA_ULTRARAW_MODE2, 2368/0x04, FilePos 0 355200 756043200, ISRC ""
2: TRM_DATA_ULTRARAW_MODE2, 2368/0x04, FilePos 756043200 756398400 757108800, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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Unless you try to record a (S)VCD, this burning mode you've picked is totally unusable for plain data CD's... use the defaults (MODE1).

LTR12101B · Jun 6, 2004

http://www.disc4you.de/news/99min.html - this one gives 89:59 as the maximum (on 90 or 99 media, with overburn) for the 208B.

Monti1 · Jun 8, 2004

Thanks guys for you responding.

Quick update: I can burn .cdi images on Alcohol--haven't tried nero images yet...

As for the 99 minute data discs...I can semi-load them on my dvd and my home dvd/divx player (of course audio and video only). That could mean I might need a dvd rom drive to read and access it....

Duracell · Jun 8, 2004

Monti1 said:
That could mean I might need a dvd rom drive to read and access it....

or a newer CD-ROM or CD-RW drive;
another option: take your 99er discs to a friend with a newer (combatible) drive and "re-backup" your data in Mode 1 to 80 min CD-R there;

Monti1 · Jun 9, 2004

Yeah I agree. Wanna hear something funny? now I can't even write 99 minute CDs, LOL.

God, that's so ironic...

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