555 >>>Self-Intro...

[555]

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Dear Members and CD-Experts,

I'm from Chile... (in case you care!)
Having discovered and developed my talent as a creative musician, I'm very fortunate having received an offer from a big recording company. (No bull!)
Being new to CD- recordings, now I have to double my efforts to learn everything in the hurry...
For years I occupy myself with PC’s. So, in that regard I think by now I have got the stuff I need to produce beaut’ recordings.
Basically I use SoundForge & 1000 plugins to record and master the recorded piece. The trouble is that the recorded and mastered sound from SoundForge never sounds exactly the same after it’s burnt onto a CD and then played on my SONY stereo.
The bass, for instance, is far heavier on my (“normed”) SONY stereo.
Solution:
I now use the WindowsMediaPlayer9 and run the output from my Sn’dblasterLive into another stereo, next to my PC. This stereo has the bass EQ adjusted to match the overall sound picture of that SONY stereo. In this way I can aurally reduce the bass level before recording the music to CD and waste less CD blanks…
Drawback: I still need to go to and back between WMP9 and Sn’Forge until I get the levels right.
Another, better idea was, to use the EQ of WindowsMediaPlayer9 to give it a final, real time bass/mid/treble shave… and re-record the output to SoundForge.

That brings me to “Circle Surround II (scii) plugin v1.3 for WMP9”, which I think would do a lot better in my case. The trouble is that I downloaded the app, but I’m unable to register it…
Here are the details of my problem:
1) I installed "Circle Surround II Plugin for WMP9 v1.3" I followed the below instruction... yet, and only one time the registration prompt appeared. I entered the correct keygen data, but it still fails to work.
The worst is that now I'm unable to open/prompt the registration box!
2) I deleted the app and used RegCrawler & RegHealer to clean up regfiles (under:csii and srs), but I think somewhere is still a hidden regfile, which inhibits the prompt of the registration box to appear.
What to do? Thanks for any help!
In turn I promise to help others in need!

The instructions from SRS (owners of CSII or "csii") are:
There are two ways to prompt the Registration dialog box (see figure 2)
1. Play a media file. This will prompt the registration process. Please enter the registration code.
2. 2. Enable the CSII Decoder. On the menu bar for the Windows Media Player go to: Tools> Plug-ins and make sure there is a check by the CSII Decoder. If there is currently a check, you will need to disable and re-enable the CSII Decoder. This will prompt the registration process. Please enter the registration code.
Regards from sunny, summerly Chile!

 

[banzibaby]

Hi & Welcome

Im sorry, but i dont think we can help U with a keygen, the reson it wont allow U to register is it prolly generated the wrong code, try bying the app, then U will be able to register it legally

Please read our rules

BaNzI

 

[PC-GUY]

Hi & Welcome

Im sorry, but i dont think we can help U with a keygen, the reson it wont allow U to register is it prolly generated the wrong code, try bying the app, then U will be able to register it legally

Please read our rules

BaNzI

Welcome to forum, but I have to agree with BaNzI.
"try bying the app, then U will be able to register it legally "

 

[The-poacher]

welcome & yes we are warez free.

 

[LTR12101B]

If you piped the line-out to a decent stereo, you could probably equalize it nicely in Soundforge, without an extra digital-analog-digital conversion step.

In fact, ther's a lot to be said for putting your computer audio through a even a budget midi-system - as even the bookshelf speakers of that are usually better than the weedy little computer ones.

 

[555]

Thanking you the great help! Re: CSII Circle Surround

Well, I thank you all you wonderful experts,

Now I know what I have to do....
1) Although I'm pensioner, I have to apply for a job or "slim down" my pension to help the poor SRS capitalists to balance their books...
2) Try my luck in the lottery...
3) Check the local street gutters...
4) Delete CSII and think of alternative solutions...
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I actually wanted to use WMP9 only, because of the following problems:

Albeit the realtime mastering of the recording with SoundForge yields impressive sounds, the resulting CD recording tends to expose the flaws, such as too much bass, hum, different volume level etc. Before all these flaws were almost inaudible!
Conclusion:
SoundForge (now SONY) software must have their own (non-standard) formula, because when I play the CD on my (standard) SONY stereo unit, the CD sounds totally different.
What to do?
Since my Sony stereo unit is in the lounge room (12m away from my PC), I run the output of my SB-Live into a smaller Sharp stereo unit, next to my PC.
I noticed that when I play the SoundForge mastered piece on the WMP9, I can simulate how the CD will eventually sound and so, rectify the flaws with SoundForge before burning the sound to CD.
Yet, this rather boring game of shuffling the recording many times from SoundForge into the WMP9 and back, makes me sick! There must be a better way... I'm sure that I'm not the only one having this problem.

My latest reasoning: I chose several correct level recordings as reference source and with these I try to adjust the EQ of the Sharp stereo unit (near my PC) to match the (standard) Sony stereo unit.
I'm still not entirely convinced that this will deliver the desired result, but I am at it...
So far, I usuall waste about 6 blank CD to get it finally right, by trial and error.
I think you wise recording maestros surely know what I am on about and maybe I you have some invaluable advice on that?

PS. I now have a record company interested (no bull!) in my creativity and that is why I have to get my act together, in a hurry. I live in Chile (no bull!) and the recording company is in the US.
Soy muy agradecido para su ayuda! I am grateful for good advice and as always...promise to help others in need... Greetings from 555

 

[Duracell]

Hi 555, Welcome to our forum!

for verifying the waves i wouldn't trust anything else than:
playing back the waves at your PC without equalizing anything;
using sound card's "waveplay digital" driver as output interface in SoundForge;
connecting your soundcard via digital out to the D/A decoder of your SONY stereo;

anyhow, a good "tempered" semi-professional system would be better than your Sony solution; don't waste your time with Creative crap and Media Player when you make money with your music;


Greetings from
Duracell

 

[PC-GUY]

That brings me to “Circle Surround II (scii) plugin v1.3 for WMP9”, which I think would do a lot better in my case. The trouble is that I downloaded the app, but I’m unable to register it…
Here are the details of my problem:
1) I installed "Circle Surround II Plugin for WMP9 v1.3" I followed the below instruction... yet, and only one time the registration prompt appeared. I entered the correct keygen data, but it still fails to work.
The worst is that now I'm unable to open/prompt the registration box!

Wait did I miss something here? No one has a problem with the fact that he said he "downloaded the app," and " I entered the correct keygen data," To use his word!!!

 

[Duracell]

Wait did I miss something here? No one has a problem with the fact that he said he "downloaded the app," and " I entered the correct keygen data," To use his word!!!

Banzi and you already found the right words in your postings avove; Thanks for that!
TP said too "we are warez free"; so i guess, he (555) surely got the lesson; nobody offers support for his "registering problem";

 

[555]

I thank you all... to help myself!

Again thanks to you all!
Albeit my SB-Live card has digital output, my Sony stereo unit (Model:LBT-XP22) has no digital input.
The problem is that that the wave from the SoundForge via SB-Live analog output into the Sony stereo unit sound totally different > after I play the same wave back, burned onto a CD (in the same Sony stereo unit).

The SoundForge prg masks or hides the true wave attributes, because before I was happy with the SoundForge (realtime) master. After I burned the wave to CD I am usually unhappy with the result...
because the levels are totally different from what I heard before. I almost feel like being tricked... by SoundForge.
I then usually start to write down, which wave has too much bass, hum, treble, vol... etc.
I don't want to invest unnecessarily in more stuff, because I got pretty good results with the stuff I already got. It’s only that I have this sound parameter matching problems.
The fact, that my "full-blown, standard Sony stereo unit is in the lounge room (12m away from my PC), I run the output of my SB-Live into a smaller Sharp stereo unit, next to my PC, adds additional matching problems...

I think my idea > of using several correct level from my CD recordings as reference source to adjust the EQ of the Sharp stereo unit (near my PC) to match the overall parameter of the (standard) Sony stereo unit 12m away in the lounge room > seems to work out…
Result: Now, when I play the wave back from/in SoundForge via SB-Live analog output into my Sharp stereo unit (next to PC) and thus, I am able to hear more honest bass and hum levels. This way > what I hear now > I can expect on CD!
That’s all I wanted! The rest is sweet! Help yourself, so helps you God and the forum! It's true: By writing to you I actually reasoned myself to success!


(This way I can omit the WMP9 player circus. I only thought of using it, because the playback from the WMP9 sounded much nearer to my Sony stereo unit than the playback from the SoundForge.)

 

[Duracell]

there must something weird at your system when plain wave playback (without any activated plugin/effect/equalizer) in SoundForge and WMP sounds different;

 

[555]

You are right... Maybe it's the SB-Live soundcard or the lousy Sharp stereo unit, which interprets the parameters differently. Also different in/output levels influence the filters accordingly.
Whatever it might be, I have to do something about it or I will have to put up with creating trial & error CD’s forever... Thus, I am advised to follow the same string of weirdness in the hope to gain an acceptable result. (If you can’t agree with it join it!… It worked with communists in East Germany!)
I mean, I like to put the sound on CD with what I am happy with... and not have to keep on wonder what the CD will sound like.
This sick guesswork cost me every time several blank CD. (- I give them away as presents with a warning!) What a pity that these CD-RW cannot be played on my Sony stereo unit...

In such cases one has to do a bit of observing and reasoning. I only thought forum members may know a ting or two about it.
One should think that all audio softwares have the same in/ and output norms. Maybe it’s not so? Everyone has “their norm”!
I wished there would be some kind of synchronization tool, which would help me to adjust/match the same audio parameter. Maybe I need to solder myself a “wobulator”… or is there an easier alternative? Using hearing can be deceptive. Yet, if it has to be: with some trial & error plus good heraring I may get there...

 

[Duracell]

that the product CD sounds different at your Sony, is a result of your soundcard, line connection, Sharp stereo and the connected speakers;

One should think that all audio softwares have the same in/ and output norms. Maybe it’s not so? Everyone has “their norm”!

any software should sound equally; you only have to pay attation to use the MME or the ASIO interface of your soundcard driver as output interface; so it bypasses the direct sound API and even Windows' sound control panel;
i don't know if your SB-Live supports MME or ASIO; i don't know if it's possible to configure the output interface in SoundForge and WMP9;

personally i never had a Creative card and never tried SoundForge and WMP9; my mastering equipment is WaveLab as software, a Terrratec EWX 24/96 soundcard, a Marantz amp and ALR speakers; i don't recognize a difference, when i blay back my final CD in my Pioneer CD standalone (by using the Marantz and the ALRs again;

 

[555]

Probieren geht ueber studieren!

I dont have/use AIO/MME and SB-Live hasn't got it either... I think it's Steinberg stuff, like VSTi u. andere Steine.

You know it might be a good idea to suggest a setup to the forum, which is good & affordable. I happen to have inherited a musical talent, but I'm not that much into audio recording engineering. I just prefer a simple setup, because basically once I have a good setup, I can do all my recordings without worrying about alternative setups.
Times have changed enormously. In the past a recording studio costs several 100 000 dollars, now it all comes quasi free... I still got that Yamaha MT2X mixer, a Boss ParaEQ, Alesis reverb, AIWA tape-deck, Roland Sampler and D20 lying around. I buy no more!!! The only thing we still can't buy or have free is the talent!
Understandably many youngsters, spoilt by the ease of obtaining studio software, find it extremely hard to put up with the lack of talent...
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Back to my problem: I think I'm now closer than ever to solve it.
I don't question why there are differences. I won't be able to alter/fix them anyway. Thus, I rather just put them into the equation and resolve them by trial & error. (As "Knallkopf Adolf" used to say: "Probieren geht ueber studieren!") Click > http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to work it out!
- At the worst it might cost me a few more blank CD while I learn to match the levels. I suppose it's part of my apprenticeship...
The more important thing is my talent. (It's unfair to others to have it all!)
So far the recording studio seems to be quite happy with my recordings. I made sure the sound levels are within bounds so, they are able to re-master them.
To record whistling sounds used to be tricky with audiocassette recorders. The airflow, the harmonics and tape saturation & limitations caused "white noise" to accompany the whistle tune. I nearly wanted to build a frequency-controlled filter which eliminates the white noise… Regards 555
Thanks to modern recording parameters and “softwarez” non-of these problems arise.