framerate difficulties

[WORD!]

okay.. i got the program working, it burns just fine, the audio is great, the picture is great, no pixelation problems or anything.. but the framerate is really choppy. the audio goes with the picture, but it's just like every other frame isn't being read. it's like this throughout the entire movie, it doesn't get faster or slower, it stays at the same rate all the way through. the actual avi file has a 23.9760 fps.. i think that's standard. i'm using cce, with 4 passes... i don't have canopus procoder. are both necessary? or is one better than the other? i'm burning onto a 4.7 gig dvd....... anybody know of anything i should be doing differently??

[The_Mask]

Please post the *.log files and the TFM_Avisynth_Script_File.avs.

[WORD!]

here's the log
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- 07/11/2004 2:01:08 AM
- AVI to DVD conversion
- The FilmMachine version 1.3
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Initializing.
Initializing finished.

Recordable media (DVD-R)
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- 07/11/2004 2:01:10 AM
- Free on drive C: 10.59 GB
- Merging Avi Files with VirtualDubMod
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Merging AVI files with VirtualDubMod
Creating VirtualDubMod job file
VirtualDubMod is working in the background.....
Avi merging finished.

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- 07/11/2004 2:03:00 AM
- Free on drive C: 9.23 GB
- Audio Extraction
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Extracting audio from AVI file
Audio extraction finished.

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- 07/11/2004 2:07:07 AM
- Free on drive C: 8.74 GB
- Audio Conversion
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Executing BeSweet DLL. Commandline:
-azid( -g max ) -ota( -fs 48000 ) -shibatch( --rate 48000 ) -ac3enc( -b 448 -6ch )
Audio conversion finished.


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- 07/11/2004 2:44:22 AM
- Free on drive C: 8.74 GB
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft Encoder SP 2.67
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.

TFM_Project_File.ecl found
TFM_Project_File.ecl encoding started at 2:44:31 AM
Creating TFM_Video_Info_File.vaf
Creating TFM_Enc_Video.mpv
TFM_Project_File.ecl encoded at 12:04:04 PM
Encoding finished

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- 07/11/2004 12:04:08 PM
- Free on drive C: 6.35 GB
- Video PullDown
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PullDown is working in the background.....
Video PullDown finished.

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- 07/11/2004 12:15:08 PM
- Free on drive C: 6.35 GB
- Creating DVD compliant files
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Mplex is multiplexing the video and audio stream.....
mplex version 2.0.0 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $)
File C:\PROGRA~1\THEFIL~1\Output\TFM_PU~1.MPV looks like an MPEG Video stream.
File C:\PROGRA~1\THEFIL~1\Output\TFM_EN~1.AC3 looks like an AC3 Audio stream.
Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!
Found 1 audio streams and 1 video streams
Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile
Multiplexing video program stream!
Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (C:\PROGRA~1\THEFIL~1\Output\TFM_PU~1.MPV)
VIDEO STREAM: e0
Frame width : 720
Frame height : 480
Aspect ratio : 4:3 display
Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec
Bit rate : 9800000 bits/sec
Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes
CSPF : 0
Scanning for header info: AC3 Audio stream 00 (C:\PROGRA~1\THEFIL~1\Output\TFM_EN~1.AC3)
AC3 frame size = 1792
AC3 AUDIO STREAM:
Bit rate : 57344 bytes/sec (448 kbit/sec)
Frequency : 48000 Hz
SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:
rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 10470296
target data-rate specified : 10080000
++ WARN: Target data rate lower than computed requirement!
++ WARN: N.b. a 20% or so discrepancy in variable bit-rate
++ WARN: streams is common and harmless provided no time-outs will occur
Run-in Sectors = 89 Video delay = 13019 Audio delay = 0
New sequence commences...
Video e0: buf= 237568 frame=000000 sector=00000000
Audio bd: buf= 16384 frame=000000 sector=00000000
Scanned to end AU 221768
STREAM e0 completed @ frame 221768.
STREAM bd completed @ frame 289046.
Multiplex completion at SCR=832445732.
Video e0: buf= 234436 frame=221768 sector=01962813
Audio bd: buf= 2048 frame=289046 sector=00256931
VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0
Video Stream length: 3958744472 bytes
Sequence headers: 15699
Sequence ends : 1
No. Pictures : 221768
No. Groups : 15699
No. I Frames : 15699 avg. size 54006 bytes
No. P Frames : 118725 avg. size 21325 bytes
No. B Frames : 87345 avg. size 6629 bytes
Average bit-rate : 3423600 bits/sec
Peak bit-rate : 9430000 bits/sec
BUFFERING min 15 Buf max 220018
AUDIO_STATISTICS: bd
Audio stream length 517972224 bytes.
Frames : 462109311
BUFFERING min 35 Buf max 8771
MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.
Multiplexing finished.

Encoding Background jpeg.
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Parsing & checking input files.
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Image dimensions are 720x480
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Movie frame rate is: 29.970030 frames/second
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Interlaced frames, top field first.
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Frame size: 720 x 480
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Now generating YUV4MPEG stream.
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Processing non-interlaced/interleaved C:/PROGRA~1/THEFIL~1/Output/TFM_Background.jpg, size 57741l.
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Selecting DVD output profile
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Assuming norm NTSC
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Encoding MPEG-2 video to C:/PROGRA~1/THEFIL~1/Output/TFM_Background.m2v
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Horizontal size: 720 pel
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Vertical size: 480 pel
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Aspect ratio code: 2 = 4:3 display
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Frame rate code: 4 = 30000.0/1001.0 (NTSC VIDEO)
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Bitrate: 7500 KBit/s
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Quality factor: 8 (1=best, 31=worst)
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Field order for input: top-field-first
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Sequence unlimited length
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Search radius: 16
INFO: [mpeg2enc] GOP SIZE RANGE 9 TO 15
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Setting colour/gamma parameters to "NTSC"
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Progressive format frames = 0
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Buffering 39 frames
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING 3DNOW and EXTENDED MMX for QUANTIZER!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING EXTENDED MMX for MOTION!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING MMX for TRANSFORM!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING EXTENDED MMX for PREDICTION!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] GOP LENGTH = 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Frame start 0 I 0 0
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Frame end 0 117.37 117.37 10.5 10.52
INFO: [mpeg2enc] GOP LENGTH = 0
Encoding Background jpeg finished.

Multiplexing Background jpeg.
mplex version 2.0.0 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $)
File C:\PROGRA~1\THEFIL~1\Output\TFM_Background.m2v looks like an MPEG Video stream.
Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!
Found 0 audio streams and 1 video streams
Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile
Multiplexing video program stream!
Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (C:\PROGRA~1\THEFIL~1\Output\TFM_Background.m2v)
VIDEO STREAM: e0
Frame width : 720
Frame height : 480
Aspect ratio : 4:3 display
Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec
Bit rate : 7500000 bits/sec
Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes
CSPF : 0
SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:
rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 7655000
target data-rate specified : 10080000
Setting specified specified data rate: 10080000
Scanned to end AU 0
Run-in Sectors = 88 Video delay = 12873 Audio delay = 0
New sequence commences...
Video e0: buf= 237568 frame=000000 sector=00000000
STREAM e0 completed @ frame 0.
Multiplex completion at SCR=2925.
Video e0: buf= 200565 frame=000000 sector=00000019
VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0
Video Stream length: 37003 bytes
Sequence headers: 1
Sequence ends : 1
No. Pictures : 0
No. Groups : 1
No. I Frames : 1 avg. size 37003 bytes
No. P Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes
No. B Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes
Average bit-rate : 8871600 bits/sec
Peak bit-rate : 0 bits/sec
BUFFERING stream too short for useful statistics
MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.
Multiplexing Background jpeg finished.

Spumux is creating the DVD menu.....
Processed 0 subtitles.
The longest display line had -1 characters.
The maximum number of displayed lines was 0.
The normal display height of the font arial.ttf was 0.
The bottom display height of the font arial.ttf was 0.
The biggest subtitle box had 1418 bytes.
Creating DVD menu finished.

DVDAuthor is writing the VOB files.....
Locale=C
Converting filenames to US-ASCII
dvdauthor creating VTS
Video pts = 0.176 .. 0.209
Audio[32] pts = 0.176 .. 0.176
Generating VTSM with the following video attributes:
MPEG version: mpeg2
TV standard: ntsc
Aspect ratio: 4:3
Resolution: 720x480
Video pts = 0.178 .. 9249.768
Audio[0] pts = 0.178 .. 9249.682
Generating VTS with the following video attributes:
MPEG version: mpeg2
TV standard: ntsc
Aspect ratio: 4:3
Resolution: 720x480
Audio ch 0 format: ac3/6ch, 48khz drc, 'en'
dvdauthor creating table of contents
Scanning C:\Program Files\The FilmMachine\Output\DVD/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO
Writing VOB files finished.

Finished authoring DVD

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- 07/11/2004 12:48:00 PM
- Free on drive C: 6.25 GB
- Burning DVD
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NeroApi version = 6.3.1.25

Creating IsoTree

[VIDEO_TS]
VTS_01_5.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_0.VOB
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.BUP
[AUDIO_TS]

DVD Video Realloc Started
DVD-Video files reallocation started
DVD Video Realloc Not Needed
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
DVD Video Detected
DVD-Video files sorted
Reading directories
Creating directories
Finishing
Reading directories
Creating directories
Checking discs
Caching Started
Writing to cache
Caching of files started
Done Caching
Caching of files completed
The current process cannot be interrupted
Writing Started
Writing to disc
Burn process started at 2x (2,770 KB/s)
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM
Writing Lead-in
Writing tracks
Writing Lead-out
Writing short lead-out
The process can be interrupted again
Done Writing
Burn process completed successfully at 2x (2,770 KB/s)
Burn OK
Finished Burning DVD.

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- 07/11/2004 1:17:06 PM
- Free on drive C: 6.23 GB
- DVD creation finished!
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and here's the other one

# 4:3 encoding
Import("C:\Program Files\The FilmMachine\AviSynth\ResampleAudio.avs")
AviSource("C:\Program Files\The FilmMachine\Output\TFM_Merged.avi", false)
ConvertToYUY2()
LanczosResize(720,268,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,106,0,106)
ResampleAudio(44100)

[The_Mask]

Is it also choppy on your TV or only on your Computer?

[WORD!]

it's choppy on my tv.. i can't view it on my comp, because i lack a dvd rom... but the avi itself plays just fine.
EDIT: oh, oops.. my dvd-rw can read dvd's.. yeah, it's choppy on both.

[ChickenMan]

What version of CCE 2.67 are you running?

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- 07/11/2004 2:44:22 AM
- Free on drive C: 8.74 GB
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft Encoder SP 2.67
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If its 2.67.00.27 (has MANY reported problems), then I'd suggest you back track and use either 2.67.00.23 or better still ver 2.50.

[WORD!]

i can give that a try.. any other ideas before i waste another cd?

[Duracell]

any other ideas before i waste another cd?

one idea is using -RW media;

[WORD!]

hushashashasha.. yeah, that would be keen of me.. but i already have these cd's and getting rw ones would meen going to radio shack, which i don't want to do right now

[Duracell]

another method is using Nero's image recorder and then loading the result into Nero's image drive; so you are able to pre-check the video before burning;

[WORD!]

okay.. the earlier version of cce produced the exact same thing.. except on this version there's a really stupid cinecraft logo on the bottom of the screen. are all svcd's choppy? is this just as good as it would get?

[ChickenMan]

... there's a really stupid cinecraft logo on the bottom of the screen.

Thats because you are using the Demo version.

..are all svcd's choppy? is this just as good as it would get?

No they are not, many DVD Players have problems playing SVCD's. Do they play okay on the PC ?

[WORD!]

no, they do not. and i also tried it on another dvd payer and it's the same thing again.

[WORD!]

is there nothing else you guys can think of?

[ChickenMan]

Sorry, but I've never used TFM to make a SVCD. I'ts been 2 years or more since I have ever made one as well and none were ever choppy back in those days.