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[Sala]

My bad, i was talking about subrip, not subresync.

[jorgeluispena]

Thanks Mask for the "Implemented manual bitrate setting for SVCD and DVD." in 1.5.0.17 (or actual 1.5.0.173). It's the solution for those conversions when 1 CD is selected but ends in 2 CDs... the second one just having 2 o 3 minutes of the film.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

[The_Mask]

You are welcome.

[savalat]

Hi all!

I don't understand this program, and many converter program too.
If the video fps is 23,976, the result video film type is why NTSC?
The 23,976 is not NTSC, much better, if result is PAL. Only speed is higher (1/25). But the movie film is too 24 fps, and PAL conversion too speed conversion. Jerky absolut none if result is PAL. And the result is PAL, not NTSC.

Please, this program write : many program instead use this (film machine)
But this is not true, if the video is 23.976 fps (about 24) then much better is result is PAL.

Manually :

video - virtual dub frame conversion to 25
audio - conversion to 23,976 to 25fps, example with besweet
subtitle - conversion is needed (sub not needed, frame is stay)

And result is perfect.

Thank you.

[cbc]

wow and don't understand this post

[savalat]

wow and don't understand this post

My english is poor, sorry

If source video fps is 23,976, the result is NTSC. This is not good. PAL is better (if the user default TV system is PAL - well my default TV system is PAL)

"But the movie film is too 24 fps" -> any original movie film (cinema film) fps is 24. PAL conversion simple 24->25 fps. Only speed conversion.
Well, the 23,976 about 24...better method conversion method result is the PAL system with 25fps.

[cbc]

ok, well then, you have the ability to convert NTSC source film to PAL in TFM, so won't that do what you want in the end (give you PAL results to play on your PAL TV)?

[savalat]

ok, well then, you have the ability to convert NTSC source film to PAL in TFM, so won't that do what you want in the end (give you PAL results to play on your PAL TV)?

Hi, this is the problem, the 23.976 fps is NOT NTSC source. N-O-T.
This is about fps of original movie film (in cinema).

Else, I'm probe this program today. Interesting. Before ends of CCE encoding phase, the FilmMachine is finished...

[The_Mask]

23.976 and 29.97 are both NTSC and if you choose NTSC to PAL then 23.976 will be converted to PAL and it works, believe me. In my home country the system is als PAL.

If TFM does not finish correctly then you must post your *.log files so that I can check it.

[jorgeluispena]

Just to make things clear here you can read about:

DVD standards
http://www.videohelp.com/dvd

SVCD standards
http://www.videohelp.com/svcd


VCD standards
http://www.videohelp.com/vcd

[Toudiyama]

23.976 and 29.97 are both NTSC and if you choose NTSC to PAL then 23.976 will be converted to PAL and it works, believe me. In my home country the system is als PAL.

If TFM does not finish correctly then you must post your *.log files so that I can check it.

Well actually 23.976 is not NTSC but it is best converted with 2:3 pulldown and then results in a movie of the same length, converting it to PAL results in the movie playing faster and thus being shorter

My question is: if DVDs can be 23.976 fps then why can't you encode in that framrate?
This isn't limited to Filmmachine but about every encoder/transcoder encodes a 23.976 in 29.97 ( which result in an 25% bigger filesize)

[The_Mask]

You are wrong there. 23.976 is not a DVD standard only 29.97 is. I encode a 23.976 in a 23.976 mpeg videostream. Then I do a 3:2 pulldown (with DGPulldown) for 23.976 to 29.97 which is a DVD standard. For PAL to NTSC conversion I encode the movie in 25 fps and afterwards I do a 25 to 29.97 pulldown.

So encoding is done in 23.96 or 25 fps.

[savalat]

jorgeluispena :

Sorry, I see you don't understand me...

23,796 is NOT NTSC standard.
NTSC standard is 30fps, PAL standard is 25fps.

I see the vcdhelp.com I see, but please you read exactly :

"23,976 fps with 3:2 pulldown = 29,97 playback fps (NTSC Film, this is only supported by MPEG2 video)"

Only 29,97 fps is NTSC standard, NOT the 23,976.

23,976 (about 24) is the cinema film standard, this is the original.

Developers, please add your possibility of your program, if source fps is 23,976, then user can choice 25FPS PAL output. Much better, if conversion result is PAL. Absolutly no jerky. (Detailed manually method see my post).

Thank you.

[The_Mask]

This is already implemented. Choose NTSC to PAL and your 23.976 video will be converted to 25 fps.

[savalat]

This is already implemented. Choose NTSC to PAL and your 23.976 video will be converted to 25 fps.

Yes, but "NTSC to PAL" label is not good, because 23,976 is not NTSC. See my posts. NTSC standard is 30fps.