Help Choosing rigth aspect ratio

[cmp_silva]

Hello everybody don´t pay atention to my english because i´m Portuguese
i´m also using the nº1 programme "the film machine 1.2" and a came to you because i don´t know waht aspect ratio i must choose.
I have an LG tv 16:9 and the movie plays fine but if lone the movie to my friends that got a 4:3 will the faces by strentch or the movie will play fine????
Can the option fullscreen be the rigth for booth 16:9 and 4:3???

can you help me on my stupid question


thanks in advance

Carlos silva

[tierr]

try aspect ratio 4:3 and arrange method "add borders, keep aspect ratio"

[VIPER_1069]

if you are converting from AVI then use GSPOT get it here and check what aspect ratio the original avi is in and use that when converting keep it the same

[cmp_silva]

thanks for your help but i still have dougths....i made already 20 movies and a made all with the option 16:9 fullscreen.i belive they are perfect in aspect ratio, my question is can a make all with the same option 16:9 fullscreen????? will some movies in the future be bad in aspect ratio????will be better for me to do in 4:3 add borders or crop????
Can you try to help me because i´m starting to put all my divx and xvid into dvd and as you all know we always want for us the best settings and the best quality..

thanks to all in advance

[CarlosJorge]

Here how it works

you should choose 4:3 or 16:9 according to your preferences. I choose 16:9 because I own a widescreen TV, but some people prefer 4:3.

Now for the arrange method:

You should choose fullscreen ONLY if the source movie has a perfect aspect ratio (and that does not happen very often). So, in order to have a perfect aspect ratio you must choose 'add borders' or 'crop'. I repeat; only these two options keep the correct aspect. Fullscreen WILL cause deformation unless the source has a perfect AR. THis means that most of the times you'll want 'add borders, keep aspect ratio'.

Now, there's a small detail that can be important for people that generally use 16:9 for the DVD AR. If the source has an aspect ratio smaller than 16:9 (for example 1.66:1, or any other between 4:3 and 16:9), choosing 16:9 and 'add borders' will in fact add left and right borders.

So my advice is that you choose 16:9 if the source is 16:9 or greatter, and 4:3 if the source is smaller than 16:9.

Hope this helps
CJ

[CarlosJorge]

After my last post I thought that maybe it would be better to give a more precise guideline on how to choose the correct settings for aspect ratio and arrange method.

When you choose the AVI in TFM, there's a panel at the right where you can see the source aspect ratio. Get this value and use the following tables to choose:


Source AR Aspect ratio Arrange method
-----------------------------------------------------------------
< 1.293 4:3 Crop video, keep aspect ratio (1)
1.293 <> 1.373 4:3 Fullscreen (2)
1.373 <> 1.724 4:3 Add borders, keep aspect ratio
1.724 <> 1.831 16:9 Fullscreen (3)
> 1.831 16:9 Add borders, keep aspect ratio
------------------------------------------------------------------

If you are a 4:3 fanatic and want to always use this AR for your final DVD, then use this table instaed

Source AR Aspect ratio Arrange method
-----------------------------------------------------------------
< 1.293 4:3 Crop video, keep aspect ratio (1)
1.293 <> 1.373 4:3 Fullscreen (2)
> 1.373 4:3 Add borders, keep aspect ratio
------------------------------------------------------------------

(1) 'Add borders' will add left and right borders in thi case, so let's crop
(2) this is 4:3 +- 3%, so we can loose the borders
(3) this is 16:9 +- 3%, so we can loose the borders

This settings are based on my personal view of this matter and do not reflect any kind of scientific knowledge.


A suggestion for 'THe Mask':

Create an option 'Preferred DVD aspect ratio' in the options section.
Then, using this value, set aspect ratio and arrange method upon choosing the AVI according to these tables (or any other values you see fit)

I know that TFM already does some kind of automatic selection, but I can't figure out the logic in it.

Cheers
CJ

[cmp_silva]

thanks carlosJorge it seems that now i don´t have any problem...your table is 100%perfect.

[The_Mask]

Thanks Carlos for the explanation of Aspect Ratio's. I will try to add the suggested option in version 1.4 because I am planning the release of version 1.3 tonight.

And on Friday I leave for a nice holliday.

[VIPER_1069]

And on Friday I leave for a nice holliday.

and well deserved mate you work hard on a cool FREE tool

[The_Mask]

Thanks.

I just released version 1.3.

[VIPER_1069]

EXCELLENT WORK mate thanks again for a cool tool its progressed pretty fast with the feedback from here

[The_Mask]

@CarlosJorge

A suggestion for 'THe Mask':

Create an option 'Preferred DVD aspect ratio' in the options section.
Then, using this value, set aspect ratio and arrange method upon choosing the AVI according to these tables (or any other values you see fit)

What do you exactly mean with the option ''Preferred DVD aspect ratio'. What would you like it to do?

[CarlosJorge]

@The Mask

I you ask me this option isn't really necessary. I always prefer 16:9, which means I only do 4:3 encodings if the source aspect ratio is smaller than 1.78 (16:9).

But I know that there are people that prefer 4:3 and will use it no matter what the source AR is.

So, that option could work like this:

If user prefers 4:3 then TFM would always default to 4:3;
if 16:9 is chosen than TFM would propose 4:3 only if source AR is smaller than 16:9.

Cheers
CJ

[The_Mask]

Ok thanks, I will implement it.