Please help,slow burning (newbie)

[tag70s]

Hi everybody,
I got a poineer DVD burner,but when i burn a dvd it says 8mins + ,and burning at 8x ,but when it gets to 00.00 ,it is still only halfway through the burn it then goes on to take about 20 mins ,it also does this when burning from the hard drive ,the dvd does play ok.
I tried different disc(TDK,HP,memo) still the same result.

I'm using
sony vio P4, 512 ram,
Nero 6.6.0.3

and this the burning log

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 5:35:34 PM
Nero version: 6.6.0.3
Recorder: Version: 1.14 - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.6.0.3
Adapter driver: <> HA 3
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: Version: 1.04 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.3
Adapter driver: HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST360020A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R E: CDRom0
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B F: CDRom1
Generic DVD-ROM G: CDRom2
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 H: CDRom3
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523808kB)
Free physical memory: 26MB (27580kB)
Memory in use : 94 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

15.2.2005
ISO compilation
6:40:08 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6168
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

6:40:08 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

6:40:08 PM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 running

6:40:08 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:40:08 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3151
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

6:40:09 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 256
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2290969 (509:06.19, 4474MB)

6:40:09 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 268
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

6:40:09 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2309
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

6:40:09 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 430
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

6:40:09 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2291120 (2291120) = #2291120/509:8.20
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2291120 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108]
--------------------------------------------------------------

6:40:11 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1040
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 397246464, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2291120 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

6:40:12 PM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

6:40:13 PM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4038
Cache writing successful.

6:40:13 PM #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

6:40:13 PM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

6:40:13 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2596
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

6:40:13 PM #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8315
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

6:40:13 PM #18 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 608
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: No

6:40:22 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1282
18:40:22.687 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108\H3 T0 : Queue again later

6:58:36 PM #119 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2291120 (22F5B0h), lenght 0 blocks

6:58:36 PM #120 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

6:59:03 PM #121 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.27b, size=16000 bytes, created 9/7/2001 11:06:20 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 2:59:44 AM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======

[roadworker]

Update your Nero to the latest version,and then enable DMA for your devices and harddisk....except the Pioneer burner,most of them are running in PIO mode,wich causes the slow burn and the extremely high memory usage when you're burning....
Hardware-->device manager-->ide ata/atapi controllers,then check the properties of both channels to enable DMA

You have also the Prassi PXHELP20.SYS driver on your system,which doesn't work well together with Nero....

[LTR12101B]

The Adapter configuration looks rather odd, is something running on a controller card, or on a Raid controller port on the motherboard?

[scarecrow]

CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off

Turn DMA on for primary slave as well... That thing alone can handicap the primary master performance. The Hitachi/Lucky Goldstar 8160 does support UDMA2, so switching shouldn't be a problem.

[tag70s]

thanks evey one for the quik reply.
sorry I forgot to say that my poineer connect to the PC through USB2 external box(if this makes any difference).
-I update my nero to 6.6.0.6.
-I have tried to enable DMA..it says
Primary IDE
device 0
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode: PIO.
device1:
device type:autodetection
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode:not applicable

Secondary IDE
device 0
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode: ultra DMA node2.
device1:
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode: Pio


-What do you suggest I do with the prassi drivers ?

thanks again for the help and it's very apprecaited

[LTR12101B]

Check the read transfer rate in Cdspeed, if that's slow as well, then there could be a problem with the USB2 drivers.

If it's not getting the hard drive into DMA mode, that could be a problem - not sure which chipset that machine is, but updating the chipset/IDE drivers if possible may resolve it.

[roadworker]

DMA is IMPORTANT to get your system working at it's full speed
If you can't enable the DMA settings for your drives,try this:

Open RegEdit
Find the following KEY:


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\ Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x

The last four digits will be 0000, 0001, 0002, 0003, and so on.
Under each key, delete all occurences of the following values:


MasterIdDataChecksum
SlaveIdDataChecksum

Reboot the computer. Windows will now redetect DMA settings.....

[tag70s]

I did the RegEdit changes,and this the results
Primary IDE
device 0
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode: ultra DMA mode 5.
device1:
device type:autodetection
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode:not applicable

Secondary IDE
device 0
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode: ultra DMA mode2.
device1:
Transfer mode: DMA if available
current transfer mode: Multi-word DMA Mode 2






and this a log of nero burn
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 5:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.6
Recorder: Version: 1.14 - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.6.0.6
Adapter driver: <> HA 3
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: Version: 1.04 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.6
Adapter driver: HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST360020A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R E: CDRom0
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B F: CDRom1
Generic DVD-ROM G: CDRom2
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 H: CDRom3
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523808kB)
Free physical memory: 201MB (206624kB)
Memory in use : 60 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

19.2.2005
ISO compilation
8:56:16 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6168
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

8:56:16 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

8:56:16 PM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 running

8:56:16 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

8:56:16 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3155
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

8:56:54 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2292175 (509:22.25, 4476MB)

8:56:54 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 269
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

8:56:54 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2311
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

8:56:54 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 431
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert the disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer.)

8:56:54 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 829
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2292176 (2292176) = #2292176/509:22.26
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2292176 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108]
--------------------------------------------------------------

8:56:55 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1042
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4694376448, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2292176 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

8:56:56 PM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

8:56:56 PM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4042
Cache writing successful.

8:56:56 PM #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

8:56:56 PM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

8:56:56 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2604
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

8:56:56 PM #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8332
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

8:56:56 PM #18 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 615
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: No

8:57:02 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1284
20:57:02.468 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108\H3 T0 : Queue again later

9:14:55 PM #120 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

9:15:03 PM #121 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.27b, size=16000 bytes, created 9/7/2001 11:06:20 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 2:59:44 AM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======




It's still takes twice the time to burn
Anything elso to do

[scarecrow]

Nero reports the Pioneer CD-ROM as secondary Master, and the Hitachi/LG as secondary slave... no hint of USB drives (which are reported as SCSI). The Daemon Tools virtual drive shouldn't normally be an issue.
Suggesting trying something else than Nero- it isan't difficult at all finding a better burning application.

[Duracell]

-What do you suggest I do with the prassi drivers ?

if the Prassi drivers are not needed anymore, i would remove them;

read here about removing PXHELP20.SYS: http://www.dvdrbase.com/showthread.php?p=237390
sorry, the attachment in this thread doesn't work anymore; maybe scarecrow could re-up it;

after that apply Ahead's Clean Pack, then reboot;

Greetings from
Duracell

[roadworker]

Your DMA settings are OK now
Your RAM load dropped from 94% to 60%,so this is OK too..

A question:

do you have any windows servicepack installed?

[tag70s]

I'm very glad to find such helpfull people

Dear roadworker:
I have windows servicepack 2.

Dear scarecrow:
-what you recommend as a better burning application
-is it important to remove Prassi drivers and how to do it?

Dear Duracell:
I will try to remove Prassi drivers and after that will apply Ahead's Clean Pack.


Greeting all

[scarecrow]

Dear scarecrow:
-what you recommend as a better burning application
-is it important to remove Prassi drivers and how to do it?

I'd suggest Prassi ONES, which takes less than 5MB on harddisk when installed, and can burn anything (exclude bootable CD's and DVD's). It can burn with ANY burner, as it does not use any device driver (it communicates directly with the burner firmware).
The old pxengine Prassi driver does not conflict normally with many burning apps (Nero 6 is at some cases an excheption), removing it if there's a problem is as simple as deleting the .sys and .dll files with the string "px" from /windows/system32/drivers and then running Ahead's cleaning pack.

[tag70s]

sorry friends, any more thoughts.
I feel bad that I had x16 DVD burner but burns at x4 at the most