Zigzag line encodes

[naro]

I've been using dvdreasy for quite some time now and just recently noticed that on the high action scenes (fast movements), you can clearly see zigzag lines appear, not interlace lines, but jagged edges in the whole scene (around a persons face, for example). Im running the latest dvdreasy version, cce 250, and use the k-lite mega codec pack (http://www.codecguide.com/) for all my codec needs. I have not found a solution to this problem as of yet, and wondering if anyone out there has had this problem before and resolved it.

Can this be a codec related issue with xvid or divx? I used to run all the codecs seperately until I found this pack, simple to use...

[naro]

After doing some more reading, I guess it is interlacing causing the jagged edges, for example this boot:



Based upon this, should I be adjusting the CCE encoder settings depending on whether my movie is progressive or interlaced?

[naro]

I think this may be a bug in the way DVDReasy is handling the interlaced material - never had this problem with previous versions of dvdreasy. The combing effect only appears on interlaced movies, so I'm guessing the video is improperly being encoded, I do have the progressive frame flag unchecked for my CCE settings.

I'm going to try running my movie through ReStream to see if it corrects this problem...if so then DVDReasy is doing something funny.

[naro]

Restream didnt work, I'm out of ideas, but something is going on :-/ I dont know much enough about mpeg2 to figure out how to correct this...

[dvdreasy]

Hi naro,

is the source PAL or NTSC ?

Could you please post "dvdreasy.log" (exists in DVDREasy working directory)

Cheers,

DVDREasy

[naro]

NTSC source...

Begin of DVDREasy Conversion Process . . .
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Process Started at : 2005/08/21 15:09:05
Free disk Space : 230,562,688 Kb


Computer State . . .
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Total Running Processes : 30
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.....wdfmgr.exe - 1,596 K
.....alg.exe - 3,320 K
.....dvdreasy.exe - 7,760 K
.....wmiprvse.exe - 5,324 K


DVDREasy settings . . .
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[Folders]
Working=D:\demuxed

[Paths]
cce=C:\Program Files\Cinema Craft Encoder SP\cctsp.exe

[CCE]
vbr_pass=2
quality_prec=17
use_filter=0
filter_val=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
progressive=0
alternate_scan=0
non_linear=0
dvd=0
intra_dc_prec=-1
vmode=multipass

[ISO BURN]
dvdrw_drive_letter=F:
delete_files=0

[ENCODER]
name=cce

[HC]
profile=Best
dc_prec=Auto
noseq_endcode=0
closedgops=0
matrix=MPEG
vmode=multipass


Choosed settings information
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IFO File : F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
Type : MPEG2 720x480
Aspect : NTSC 16:9 letbox
Lenght : 02:07:18
Chapters : 52
Audio : 0x80, English - AC3 6Ch 
Subtitles : --- No Subtitles ---
Create Iso Image : False
ISO Volume Label : DVD_VIDEO
Burn Iso Image : False


STEP - Executing DVD Decrypter to rip VOB files . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 15:09:06
Command line : cmd /c cd "D:\demuxed" && "C:\Program Files\DVD Decrypter\dvddecrypter.exe" /MODE IFO /SRC F: /DEST "D:\demuxed" /VTS 01 /PGC 1 /ANGLE 1 /DIRECT 0xE0 0x80 /START /CLOSE
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 15:16:48
Free disk Space : 225,935,092 Kb


STEP - Analising ripped VOB files . . .
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Ripped VOB Files Size : 4,627,492 Kb
Re-encoding needed : True


STEP - Creating DVD2AVI project & Demuxing audio track . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 15:16:48
Command line : cmd /c "C:\Program Files\DVDREasy\dvd2avidg\dvd2avidg.exe" -CS=2 -TN=1 -OM=2 -AIF=[D:\demuxed\vts_01_1.vob] -OF=[D:\demuxed\movie] -exit
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 15:19:03
Free disk Space : 225,516,420 Kb


STEP - Bitrate calculation
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Audio Bitrate (Kbps) : 448
New Video Bitrate (Kbps) : 4332


STEP - Creating AVS File . . .
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LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVDREasy\dvd2avidg\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\demuxed\movie.d2v")
AddAudio()
ConvertToYUY2()


STEP - Executing MPEGinfo to get video settings . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 15:19:03
720            horizontal size                                          
480            vertical size                                            
3              aspect ratio (1=1:1, 2=4:3, 3=16:9, 4=2.21:1)            
4              framerate (3=25, 4=29.97)                                
9800000        nominal bitrate                                          
112            VBV buffer size                                          
1              chroma (1=4:2:0, 2=4:2:2, 3=4:4:4)                       
10             DC precision                                             
3              picture structure (1,2=field, 3=frame)                   
1              top field first (0=no, 1=yes)                            
0              DCT type (0=field, 1=frame)                              
1              scan method (0=zigzag, 1=alternate)                      
0              frame type (0=interlaced, 1=progressive)                 
1              Q scale (0=linear, 1=nonlinear)                          
PullDown needed : False
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 15:19:10


STEP - Creating ECL File . . .
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; Cinema Craft Encoder SP -- Encoder Control List

[item]
title=movie.avs
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
aud_out=0
vid_file0=D:\demuxed\movie.mpv
vid_file1=D:\demuxed\movie.mpv
vaf_file=D:\demuxed\movie.vaf
aud_file=D:\demuxed\movie.mpa
file_focused=0
encode_mode=0
packet_size=4096
timecode=0x0
width=720
height=480
vmode=2
frame_rate_idx=4
cbr_brate=6000
opv_q_factor=60
opv_brate_min=2000
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_brate_avg=4332
vbr_brate_min=300
vbr_brate_max=9100
vbr_bias=30
vbr_pass=2
quality_prec=17
use_filter=0
filter_val=2
seq_endcode=1
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
fast_mode=0
progressive=0
alternate_scan=0
non_linear=0
top_first=0
lum_level=0
intra_dc_prec=-1
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=15
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1

[file]
name=D:\demuxed\movie.avs
type=0
frame_first=0
frame_last=229150
encode_first=0
encode_last=229150

chapter=0:
chapter=6188:
chapter=13295:
chapter=15927:
chapter=18120:
chapter=25982:
chapter=30736:
chapter=33972:
chapter=39861:
chapter=40999:
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chapter=184334:
chapter=188355:
chapter=194068:
chapter=203168:
chapter=207400:
chapter=211850:
chapter=218940:
chapter=220453:


STEP - Executing CCE to Encode Video . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 15:19:22
Command line : cmd /c cd "D:\demuxed" && "C:\Program Files\DVDREasy\eclcce\eclcce.exe" -ecl D:movie.ecl -encode -exit
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 17:41:14
Free disk Space : 221,416,168 Kb


Executing Muxman to Author New DVD . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 17:41:14
Command line : cmd /c start /w /HIGH /d"C:\Program Files\DVDREasy\muxdemux" muxman "D:\demuxed\movie.mxp" -d "D:\demuxed\video_ts" -l "D:\demuxed\muxman.log" -run
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 17:47:56
Free disk Space : 216,845,684 Kb


End of DVDREasy Conversion Process . . .
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Process Ended at : 2005/08/21 17:47:57
Free disk Space : 216,845,684 Kb

I tried 3 movies today, all have the same issue where the lines appear, depending on the movie its more noticable. Definately interlace combing lines though, just like in that boot picture...

[dvdreasy]

Thanks naro,

I'm on vacations, and I only have my "poor" laptop . . . (encoding take hours)

I will analise this and reply you ASAP. I feel that DVDREasy has a bug when treating some NTSC material.

Could you please try the same movie using HC encoder instead of CCE, and see if the results are the same ?

Cheers,

DVDREasy

[naro]

Sure no problem, I'll even try a previous version of DVDreasy because I really dont remember having this problem on encodes prior to your 0.6.5 release.

[naro]

It seems the HC encoder does not suffer from this problem, matter a fact, even the color is better... You do see some interlace lines appearing, but they're in parts where I would consider it to be understandable for them to show, whereas with CCE, you see the combing all throughout almost, no matter whats going on onscreen... I'll try a 3rd encode with CCE using a previous version of DVDreasy and see if the problem is there...

Begin of DVDREasy Conversion Process . . .
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Process Started at : 2005/08/21 22:51:32
Free disk Space : 216,845,696 Kb


Computer State . . .
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Total Running Processes : 33
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.....spoolsv.exe - 4,456 K
.....DefWatch.exe - 1,596 K
.....Rtvscan.exe - 23,360 K
.....wdfmgr.exe - 1,608 K
.....alg.exe - 3,324 K
.....ati2evxx.exe - 2,440 K
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.....trillian.exe - 4,956 K
.....wizd.exe - 2,524 K
.....wizd.exe - 2,512 K
.....dvdreasy.exe - 9,932 K
.....wmiprvse.exe - 5,316 K


DVDREasy settings . . .
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[Folders]
Working=D:\demuxed2

[Paths]
cce=C:\Program Files\Cinema Craft Encoder SP\cctsp.exe

[CCE]
vbr_pass=2
quality_prec=17
use_filter=0
filter_val=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
progressive=0
alternate_scan=0
non_linear=0
dvd=0
intra_dc_prec=-1
vmode=multipass

[ISO BURN]
dvdrw_drive_letter=F:
delete_files=0

[ENCODER]
name=hc

[HC]
profile=Best
dc_prec=Auto
noseq_endcode=0
closedgops=0
matrix=MPEG
vmode=multipass


Choosed settings information
--------------------------------------------------------------
IFO File : F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
Type : MPEG2 720x480
Aspect : NTSC 16:9 letbox
Lenght : 02:07:18
Chapters : 52
Audio : 0x80, English - AC3 6Ch 
Subtitles : --- No Subtitles ---
Create Iso Image : False
ISO Volume Label : DVD_VIDEO
Burn Iso Image : False


STEP - Executing DVD Decrypter to rip VOB files . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 22:51:33
Command line : cmd /c cd "D:\demuxed2" && "C:\Program Files\DVD Decrypter\dvddecrypter.exe" /MODE IFO /SRC F: /DEST "D:\demuxed2" /VTS 01 /PGC 1 /ANGLE 1 /DIRECT 0xE0 0x80 /START /CLOSE
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 22:59:15
Free disk Space : 212,218,096 Kb


STEP - Analising ripped VOB files . . .
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Ripped VOB Files Size : 4,627,492 Kb
Re-encoding needed : True


STEP - Creating DVD2AVI project & Demuxing audio track . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 22:59:15
Command line : cmd /c "C:\Program Files\DVDREasy\dvd2avidg\dvd2avidg.exe" -CS=2 -TN=1 -OM=2 -AIF=[D:\demuxed2\vts_01_1.vob] -OF=[D:\demuxed2\movie] -exit
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 23:00:45
Free disk Space : 211,799,424 Kb


STEP - Bitrate calculation
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Audio Bitrate (Kbps) : 448
New Video Bitrate (Kbps) : 4332


STEP - Creating AVS File . . .
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LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVDREasy\dvd2avidg\mpeg2dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\demuxed2\movie.d2v")
AddAudio()
ConvertToYV12()


STEP - Executing MPEGinfo to get video settings . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 23:00:45
720            horizontal size                                          
480            vertical size                                            
3              aspect ratio (1=1:1, 2=4:3, 3=16:9, 4=2.21:1)            
4              framerate (3=25, 4=29.97)                                
9800000        nominal bitrate                                          
112            VBV buffer size                                          
1              chroma (1=4:2:0, 2=4:2:2, 3=4:4:4)                       
10             DC precision                                             
3              picture structure (1,2=field, 3=frame)                   
1              top field first (0=no, 1=yes)                            
0              DCT type (0=field, 1=frame)                              
1              scan method (0=zigzag, 1=alternate)                      
0              frame type (0=interlaced, 1=progressive)                 
1              Q scale (0=linear, 1=nonlinear)                          
PullDown needed : False
Step ended at : 2005/08/21 23:00:52


STEP - Creating HC.INI File . . .
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*ASPECT 16:9
*BITRATE 4332
*MAXBITRATE 9100
*INFILE D:\demuxed2\movie.avs
*LOGFILE D:\demuxed2\hc.log
*OUTFILE D:\demuxed2\movie.mpv
*MATRIX MPEG
*PROFILE Best
*DC_PREC 10
*INTERLACED
*TFF


STEP - Executing HC ENCODER to Encode Video . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/21 23:00:52
Command line : cmd /c cd "D:\demuxed2" && "D:\demuxed2\hcbatch.exe" -ini "D:\demuxed2\hc.ini"
Step ended at : 2005/08/22 02:01:44
Free disk Space : 207,755,540 Kb


Executing Muxman to Author New DVD . . .
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Step Started at : 2005/08/22 02:01:44
Command line : cmd /c start /w /HIGH /d"C:\Program Files\DVDREasy\muxdemux" muxman "D:\demuxed2\movie.mxp" -d "D:\demuxed2\video_ts" -l "D:\demuxed2\muxman.log" -run
Step ended at : 2005/08/22 02:08:04
Free disk Space : 203,195,452 Kb


End of DVDREasy Conversion Process . . .
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Process Ended at : 2005/08/22 02:08:05
Free disk Space : 203,195,452 Kb

[dvdreasy]

thanks naro,

The problem is not from CCE itself, but from how DVDREasy pass the settings to CCE.

Now I'm more convinced that DVDREasy has a bug (not all settings are correctly passed to cce). This only happens is some NTSC source. All works great with PAL sources.

I live in PAL land and have a huge difficulty to grab NTSC material. I will try to grab a NTSC source with the some specs from yours (reported by MPEGINFO) and try to figure out what is going on.

Again, thanks for your time and support.

Cheers,

DVDREasy

[naro]

Hey no problem man, your app is truely the best and I would do anything to help this project succeed.

[naro]

If the CCE thing isnt a bug, this one defintely is... I installed your application locally as an administrator, but when I log into my account (roaming profile) through a domain, dvdreasy no longer functions. Start menu option to run dvdreasy is gone, and when I go to explore and run it, dvdreasy blows up saying it cannot find the correct version of DVD Decryptor, version 3.2 or greater. Then exits out after that.

[dvdreasy]

Hi naro,

DVDREasy checks for DVDDECRYPTER in the system registry.

When you install DVDDECRYPTER, it creates its own registry keys ONLY in HKEY_CURRENT_USER and not in HKEY_LOCAL MACHINE !

Thats why when you log in to your account and launch DVDREasy it complains about not finding DVDDECRYPTER. If you want to use DVDREasy from your account, just reinstall DVDDECRYPTER with your account. (you could specify the same directory of the previous installation - Administrator)

I hope you can understand me . . .

Cheers,

DVDREasy

[naro]

Worked, thanks...

[Shocker9000]

I continue to have terrible interlacing problems using DVDREasy and HC.