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Old 08-09-2004, 02:11
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Thumbs up Ritek DVD+R DL

Just thought Id give a quick review of my first experience using the limited availability Ritek DVD+R DL 8.5GB DVD'S

First off, heres a scanned image of the new disc, followed by the burn info generated by Nero 6.3.1.20. I used "The Passion Of The Christ" as my test source, nothing stripped out except the CSS. All subtitles, etc. are intact.

The burner used is a LiteOn 832S Firmware revision VSOB
Motherboard - MSI K7N2 Delta, 1 Gig of PC3200 Dual Channel DDR

I was pleasantly suprised at the resulting burn, but was just a little dismayed at the time it took - 1:06:15, but I guess it should be expected since its a 2.4X burn disc. Lets hope we see better burn speeds in the upcoming months from Ritek with their DL media. All in all, not bad for a first burn!
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:32
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Congrats!Thanks for another report on DL burning.It will become more popular as DL media prices drop.Many of us are waiting.Nice to see how different burners,and software work with DL.
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Old 08-09-2004, 09:20
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What sort of prices did you pay for the RiData DL disks ?
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Old 08-09-2004, 13:36
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How about Kprobing it? http://www.k-probe.com

Or Cdspeed - can you get a good PI/PIF, and a nice even transfer rate test?
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:00
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I paid $9.99 a piece, and got 5 to try out before ordering anymore

k-probe stats:

Date : 9/8/2004 5:57:45 PM
Model : 0-1-0-0 E:LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-832S VS0B
Disc : DVD+R DL , RITEKD01 [RiTEK Corporation]
Speed : Max
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Old 09-09-2004, 01:18
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I paid $9.99 a piece, and got 5 to try out before ordering anymore

k-probe stats:

Date : 9/8/2004 5:57:45 PM
Model : 0-1-0-0 E:LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-832S VS0B
Disc : DVD+R DL , RITEKD01 [RiTEK Corporation]
Speed : Max
Slippery did you get what LTR12101B was asking?
He want to know how high the error rate is on the DL media after recording to it.
That why he said to use K-probe to find out.
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Old 09-09-2004, 03:22
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Im not familiar with the app, so I was posting what I saw without having had a chance to learn the ins and outs of it. I will look into it further and share the results when I have them. Thx for the heads up.
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Old 09-09-2004, 03:54
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OK, hopefully this is what LTR12101B was looking for:

Date : 9/8/2004 8:57:58 PM
Model : 0-1-0-0 E:LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-832S VS0B
Disc : DVD+R DL , RITEKD01 [RiTEK Corporation]
Speed : Max
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 3925609
Sampling count : 219884
Errors : 0
PI Max : 453
PI Average : 38.47
PI Total : 1113899
PIF Max : 169
PIF Average : 2.34
PIF Total : 67808
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Old 09-09-2004, 13:33
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That's a bit high for those errors - If I recall my reading correctly, at the 8/1 setting, PI should be below 280, and PIF should be 4 or lower, Though I think that's for a 4x read - at maximum, the rates will tend to kick up as the read speed peaks.

Main thing, I suppose, is does it play on a normal DVD Player - results can be very mixed, even if bitsetting was used (marks it as a DVD-ROM, for better compatibility with players that CAN read it, but don't understand DVD+R).

Bitsetting can't help every player, and not every player needs it anyway.
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Old 09-09-2004, 13:47
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I did a check of my Verbatim DL disk and its all fine until it hits the 2nd layer, then they go up to similar numbers as slippery reported for the Ritek DL. Yep it plays just fine on both the PC and my DVD Player.

The Pioneer 108 auto sets bitsetting to DVD-ROM during burning as its expect none or very few players would recognise a DVD+R DL.
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